On Tuesday 18 November 2003 08:25 pm, you wrote:> Hi, > > Ok, thanks a lot. Just to confirm, I just drop the two image files in /boot > and create a grub entry, right? > > Thanks, > Jas >Worked for me on Gentoo, initial booting at least. But I am not sure how you get the Xen control tools on to you current distro easily. You''ll need these tools to launch guest OSes. charles ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 09:28:21PM -0800, Charles Lucas wrote:> On Tuesday 18 November 2003 08:25 pm, you wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Ok, thanks a lot. Just to confirm, I just drop the two image files in /boot > > and create a grub entry, right? > > > > Thanks, > > Jas > > > Worked for me on Gentoo, initial booting at least. But I am not sure how you > get the Xen control tools on to you current distro easily. You''ll need these > tools to launch guest OSes.In "related news," I finally got a guest OS to boot yesterday. Previously, the kernel would start, but not the boot process. I strongly suspect there is something "Redhat-like" that xenolinux expects, or simply something missing or misplaced from the SuSE 9 distribution I''m using. I futzed extensively, and ended up building a / (on an alternate partition) for the guest OS which came mostly from the CD, with pieces copied in from elsewhere. There were numerous tweaks I made, and as usual it''s not clear in retrospect which ones really mattered. If I''m right, this is good news for distros "like" RedHat (i.e., Mandrake & Gentoo). Not so good news for unlike distros (Slackware, Debian, SuSE...). I''m going to install RedHat 9 on another partition today, and see if that boots more cleanly. More news as it happens. -- Greg ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel
Two quickies for the Xen developers: 1. Are you putting code changes into both the 1.1rc and -unstable code base? If not, which one is getting all the patches that Bin and others have been applying? 2. Awhile ago, I thought that Kurt added ReiserFS support by default to the Xen kernel (2.4.22 tree''s .config). This doesn''t seem to be there now, but I''d like to urge you to consider adding it by default. It doesn''t add much size to the kernel image, and seems like a no-brainer to enable. I want to go and hit someone at RedHat over the head with a cluebat for not enabling ReiserFS, and take the same cluebat to someone at SuSE for not enabling ext3. Thanks! Greg ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel
On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 13:34, Gregory Newby wrote:> In "related news," I finally got a guest OS to boot yesterday. > Previously, the kernel would start, but not the boot process. > > I strongly suspect there is something "Redhat-like" that > xenolinux expects, or simply something missing or misplaced > from the SuSE 9 distribution I''m using. I futzed extensively, > and ended up building a / (on an alternate partition) for the > guest OS which came mostly from the CD, with pieces copied > in from elsewhere. There were numerous tweaks I made, and > as usual it''s not clear in retrospect which ones really mattered. >I haven''t gotten the time to try xen yet, but my first suspect for booting problems on suse would be hwscan. Try insserv -r hwscan -chris ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel
On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 13:39, Gregory Newby wrote:> Two quickies for the Xen developers: > > 1. Are you putting code changes into both the 1.1rc and > -unstable code base? If not, which one is getting all > the patches that Bin and others have been applying? > > 2. Awhile ago, I thought that Kurt added ReiserFS support > by default to the Xen kernel (2.4.22 tree''s .config). This > doesn''t seem to be there now, but I''d like to urge you to consider > adding it by default. It doesn''t add much size to the kernel > image, and seems like a no-brainer to enable. > > I want to go and hit someone at RedHat over the head with > a cluebat for not enabling ReiserFS, and take the > same cluebat to someone at SuSE for not enabling ext3.Haven''t tried the RH kernel for reiserfs, but SUSE definitely supports ext3. -chris ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 02:17:40PM -0500, Chris Mason wrote:> On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 13:39, Gregory Newby wrote: > > Two quickies for the Xen developers: > > > > 1. Are you putting code changes into both the 1.1rc and > > -unstable code base? If not, which one is getting all > > the patches that Bin and others have been applying? > > > > 2. Awhile ago, I thought that Kurt added ReiserFS support > > by default to the Xen kernel (2.4.22 tree''s .config). This > > doesn''t seem to be there now, but I''d like to urge you to consider > > adding it by default. It doesn''t add much size to the kernel > > image, and seems like a no-brainer to enable. > > > > I want to go and hit someone at RedHat over the head with > > a cluebat for not enabling ReiserFS, and take the > > same cluebat to someone at SuSE for not enabling ext3. > > Haven''t tried the RH kernel for reiserfs, but SUSE definitely supports > ext3. > > -chrisThe kernel might, but there''s no ext3 tools (like mkfs.ext3) in the distribution. This is with the "install everything" option on x86 SuSE, from a boxed CD set, but I''m not sure now whether it was the last 8.x version or 9. BTW, I''m not blaming SuSE for the problems with Xen....it just seems that the Xen developers are mostly using RH and variants, and might have made some assumptions that don''t work with SuSE. I''m not blaming the developers either. I''m not blaming anyone, just "stating facts" (as Spock would say). -- Greg ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel
On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 15:20, Gregory Newby wrote:> The kernel might, but there''s no ext3 tools (like mkfs.ext3) in the > distribution. This is with the "install everything" option on x86 > SuSE, from a boxed CD set, but I''m not sure now whether it was the > last 8.x version or 9. > > BTW, I''m not blaming SuSE for the problems with Xen....it just > seems that the Xen developers are mostly using RH and variants, > and might have made some assumptions that don''t work with SuSE. > I''m not blaming the developers either. I''m not blaming anyone, > just "stating facts" (as Spock would say).I understand ;-) Please cat /etc/SuSE-release. I just checked an 8.2 machine which has both fsck.ext3 and mkfs.ext3 after a default install. We''ve supported ext3 for some time. -chris ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel
> The kernel might, but there''s no ext3 tools (like mkfs.ext3) in the > distribution. This is with the "install everything" option on x86 > SuSE, from a boxed CD set, but I''m not sure now whether it was the > last 8.x version or 9.If you have tune2fs you can always do "tune2fs -j /dev/hda3" to turn an ext2 fs into an ext3 by adding a journal. OK, I guess there''s a consensus that having reiserfs in the default config is a good thing. I''ll check it in to unstable.> BTW, I''m not blaming SuSE for the problems with Xen....it just > seems that the Xen developers are mostly using RH and variants, > and might have made some assumptions that don''t work with SuSE. > I''m not blaming the developers either. I''m not blaming anyone, > just "stating facts" (as Spock would say).I''m keen we get to the bottom of this. Any chance one of you could do the following: Do an out-of-the-box SuSE install into a single partition, reboot onto another partition, mount and tar up the SuSE file system (tar jcpf), then make it available for me to download. I''ll then pull it and take a look. Thanks, Ian ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel
On 19 Nov 2003, at 18:34, Gregory Newby wrote:> I strongly suspect there is something "Redhat-like" that > xenolinux expects, or simply something missing or misplaced > from the SuSE 9 distribution I''m using. I futzed extensively, > and ended up building a / (on an alternate partition) for the > guest OS which came mostly from the CD, with pieces copied > in from elsewhere. There were numerous tweaks I made, and > as usual it''s not clear in retrospect which ones really mattered. > > If I''m right, this is good news for distros "like" RedHat > (i.e., Mandrake & Gentoo). Not so good news for unlike > distros (Slackware, Debian, SuSE...).Keir, Ian, Steven and I are all in the Computer Laboratory at University of Cambridge. In the Laboratory, the only Linux distribution (i.e. the official one) is Redhat. Therefore, XenoLinux''s default configuration may be a little bit ''Redhat-inclined''. However, I personally test Xen and XenoLinux with Debian on my laptop (which somehow proves Xen''s quite safe ;-) And I don''t see any configuration problem at all. As for Suse, your mileage may vary. On 19 Nov 2003, at 18:39, Gregory Newby wrote:> Two quickies for the Xen developers: > > 1. Are you putting code changes into both the 1.1rc and > -unstable code base? If not, which one is getting all > the patches that Bin and others have been applying?All the patches are applied to the unstable tree. We are very careful about what to put into the 1.1 tree (attention: the ''release candiate'' status has been removed.) Patches fixing serious bugs are applied to 1.1 tree too. New features/tools are only available in unstable. Under top directory of your repository, use ''bk changes'' to see a list of change sets. Or, immediately after a ''bk pull'', use ''bk csets'' to see all the details you have ''pulled'' in. (''bk csets'' requires X Window.) -- Bin ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 03:40:37PM -0500, Chris Mason wrote:> On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 15:20, Gregory Newby wrote: > > > The kernel might, but there''s no ext3 tools (like mkfs.ext3) in the > > distribution. This is with the "install everything" option on x86 > > SuSE, from a boxed CD set, but I''m not sure now whether it was the > > last 8.x version or 9. > > > > BTW, I''m not blaming SuSE for the problems with Xen....it just > > seems that the Xen developers are mostly using RH and variants, > > and might have made some assumptions that don''t work with SuSE. > > I''m not blaming the developers either. I''m not blaming anyone, > > just "stating facts" (as Spock would say). > > I understand ;-) Please cat /etc/SuSE-release. I just checked an 8.2 > machine which has both fsck.ext3 and mkfs.ext3 after a default install. > We''ve supported ext3 for some time.I''ve just hit myself with my cluebat, several times. Sorry, I do have an 8.2 and 9 machine, but this one is only 8. Duh! That was probably the source of some of my other difficulties, too. Hmmmm, I thought I upgraded that one this fall. The good news is that a pristine RedHat 9 distro boots just fine via Xen. -- Greg ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel
> I''m keen we get to the bottom of this. Any chance one of you > could do the following: Do an out-of-the-box SuSE install into a > single partition, reboot onto another partition, mount and tar > up the SuSE file system (tar jcpf), then make it available for me > to download. I''ll then pull it and take a look.If it means anything: I have a plain SuSE 8.2 installation and it works just fine with XenoLinux. (apart from kbd and hwclock boot failures which are normal). -- Croadria Internet usluge <http://www.croadria.com> - Web hosting (Linux & Windows), E-commerce Podrska: <http://podrska.croadria.com> Tel: 01/4657 818, 01/4655 601 Fax: 01/4657 819 ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel