I attended a lecture in Sydney, Australia earlier this week that featured a rulin'' presenter app written in Camping. It recreates Eric Myer''s S5 presenter app, but with a better implementation in Ruby. I hope I''m not jumping the gun, but the author is Myles Byrne and he posted a link to the svn here (don''t bug him with feature requests for a few weeks...he''s still working on it): http://svn.ducknewmedia.com.au/public/presenter/ Geoff ...................................... Blog | http://nubyonrails.com Podcast | http://podcast.rubyonrails.org Workshops | http://rubyonrailsworkshops.com Screencasts | http://peepcode.com