samba - Oct 2024 - my debian/ubuntu samba packages: update to samba-ad-dc split

Thanks for your work, Michael!!!

On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 8:04?AM Michael Tokarev via samba <
samba at lists.samba.org> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> A while back, with 4.20.1+dfsg-2 version (26 May 2024),
> I split AD-DC functionality from samba package to a separate
> samba-ad-dc package.  Adding a NEWS entry for this, which
> suggests to install samba-ad-dc package separately for the
> cases when it is needed.
>
> This turned out to be a bit problematic from a few points
> of view.
>
> First of all, despite the NEWS item and a big fat warning
> from postinst, it turned out quite a few people missed this
> info, which resulted in their AD-DCs being broken (since
> the required components aren't installed).
>
> Second, I ignored a bit tricky to implement cleanup of the
> startup files (initscripts) of samba-ad-dc from the samba
> package.  My reasoning was that initscripts are mostly
> obsolete these days and there's no need to spend much
> time on them.  However, dpkg is "helpful" here and on
> upgrades, kept the startup files in place (marking them
> "obsolete"), - again, I thought it is just cosmetic, but
> it turned out to be a bit more than that, since now
> systemd issued warnings about an initscript which does
> not have native systemd service file.  See
> https://bugs.debian.org/1085617 for more details.
>
> So I've updated the debian/ubuntu samba packages now,
> both for 4.20 and 4.21 series, with proper cleanup of
> the leftover startup scripts, and with added Recommends
> of samba-ad-dc by samba.
>
> This might come as a surprise for the ones who already
> upgraded samba packages to the split version and don't
> use ad-dc functionality - if you don't disable installing
> recommends, the new update will install samba-ad-dc for
> you, even if you don't use it.   In case you don't use
> ad-dc functionality, feel free to remove samba-ad-dc
> package.  Or you can upgrade samba with --no-install-recommends
> flag to apt.
>
> For ones who disable apt recommends, nothing changed in
> this version besides proper cleaning up of the stale
> startup files for samba-ad-dc, so systemd et al wont
> complain anymore.
>
> Hopefully this will clean up all the issues from this
> split, - for the users of my repository and for
> debian bookworm-backorts (not uploaded yet) and for
> future versions of debian and ubuntu.
>
> Thanks,
>
> /mjt
>
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Elias Pereira

Hi Michael,

thanks for your effort from me, too...

By the way, have you planned to get the Bookworm backports up to 4.21.x?

Regards
Ingo
https://github.com/WAdama



Elias Pereira via samba schrieb am 26.10.2024 um 13:30:
> Thanks for your work, Michael!!!
>
> On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 8:04?AM Michael Tokarev via samba <
> samba at lists.samba.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> A while back, with 4.20.1+dfsg-2 version (26 May 2024),
>> I split AD-DC functionality from samba package to a separate
>> samba-ad-dc package.  Adding a NEWS entry for this, which
>> suggests to install samba-ad-dc package separately for the
>> cases when it is needed.
>>
>> This turned out to be a bit problematic from a few points
>> of view.
>>
>> First of all, despite the NEWS item and a big fat warning
>> from postinst, it turned out quite a few people missed this
>> info, which resulted in their AD-DCs being broken (since
>> the required components aren't installed).
>>
>> Second, I ignored a bit tricky to implement cleanup of the
>> startup files (initscripts) of samba-ad-dc from the samba
>> package.  My reasoning was that initscripts are mostly
>> obsolete these days and there's no need to spend much
>> time on them.  However, dpkg is "helpful" here and on
>> upgrades, kept the startup files in place (marking them
>> "obsolete"), - again, I thought it is just cosmetic, but
>> it turned out to be a bit more than that, since now
>> systemd issued warnings about an initscript which does
>> not have native systemd service file.  See
>> https://bugs.debian.org/1085617 for more details.
>>
>> So I've updated the debian/ubuntu samba packages now,
>> both for 4.20 and 4.21 series, with proper cleanup of
>> the leftover startup scripts, and with added Recommends
>> of samba-ad-dc by samba.
>>
>> This might come as a surprise for the ones who already
>> upgraded samba packages to the split version and don't
>> use ad-dc functionality - if you don't disable installing
>> recommends, the new update will install samba-ad-dc for
>> you, even if you don't use it.   In case you don't use
>> ad-dc functionality, feel free to remove samba-ad-dc
>> package.  Or you can upgrade samba with --no-install-recommends
>> flag to apt.
>>
>> For ones who disable apt recommends, nothing changed in
>> this version besides proper cleaning up of the stale
>> startup files for samba-ad-dc, so systemd et al wont
>> complain anymore.
>>
>> Hopefully this will clean up all the issues from this
>> split, - for the users of my repository and for
>> debian bookworm-backorts (not uploaded yet) and for
>> future versions of debian and ubuntu.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> /mjt
>>
>> --
>> To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the
>> instructions:  https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
>>
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