bugzilla-daemon at mindrot.org
2024-Oct-13 23:09 UTC
[Bug 3743] New: ControlMaster forces ForkAfterAuthentication even when not wanted, and can't be disabled
https://bugzilla.mindrot.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3743 Bug ID: 3743 Summary: ControlMaster forces ForkAfterAuthentication even when not wanted, and can't be disabled Product: Portable OpenSSH Version: 9.9p1 Hardware: Other OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P5 Component: ssh Assignee: unassigned-bugs at mindrot.org Reporter: webmaster at shishnet.org $ ssh -G hana | grep -i fork forkafterauthentication no $ ssh -N -o ControlMaster=no hana (... ssh stays in the foreground for as long as the connection remains open ...) $ ssh -N -o ControlMaster=yes hana $ (... ssh forked into the background, even with no -f, and ForkAfterAuthentication=no ...) FYI the use-case here comes from the Zed text editor, where they initially create a connection with "-N" and "-o ControlMaster=yes" just to ensure the connection works and to keep it open, then do the real work in other processes. However after starting ssh, they then check whether or not the child process exists, and assume that the child going missing means something went wrong. I'm not sure if that approach is a good or bad idea, but either way, forking after authentication when "ForkAfterAuthentication=no" feels like a bug. [0] https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/blob/ec5d6e96bb304886f49680b54e58c9b0e7221cd6/crates/remote/src/ssh_session.rs#L1137-L1150 "Start the master SSH process, which does not do anything except for establish the connection and keep it open, allowing other ssh commands to reuse it via a control socket." [1] https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/blob/ec5d6e96bb304886f49680b54e58c9b0e7221cd6/crates/remote/src/ssh_session.rs#L1183-L1191 I was able to reproduce this with the latest code from git, commit fe6c6330c1a94c7a537efe9069853ce7a275c50a -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching the assignee of the bug.
bugzilla-daemon at mindrot.org
2024-Oct-14 03:37 UTC
[Bug 3743] ControlMaster forces ForkAfterAuthentication even when not wanted, and can't be disabled
https://bugzilla.mindrot.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3743 Damien Miller <djm at mindrot.org> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |djm at mindrot.org --- Comment #1 from Damien Miller <djm at mindrot.org> --- I can't reproduce this. I tried: ssh -F none -F -oControlPath=/tmp/ctl -oControlMaster=yes host and it didn't fork. Do you have ControlPersist enabled in your configuration? That will fork implicitly, as described in the manual page. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching the assignee of the bug. You are watching someone on the CC list of the bug.
bugzilla-daemon at mindrot.org
2024-Oct-14 12:33 UTC
[Bug 3743] ControlMaster forces ForkAfterAuthentication even when not wanted, and can't be disabled
https://bugzilla.mindrot.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3743 --- Comment #2 from Shish <webmaster at shishnet.org> --- Setting ControlPersist=no does indeed stop the automatic forking, thanks for the hint :) (It still feels weird to me that ControlPersist would control forking after authentication and ForkAfterAuthentication is silently ignored, but since there's a way to disable it that solves my immediate problem. I'll leave it up to you to decide if this warrants a behaviour change / a comment in the ForkAfterAuthentication section of the docs / just close this ticket as noise) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching the assignee of the bug. You are watching someone on the CC list of the bug.
bugzilla-daemon at mindrot.org
2024-Oct-14 13:44 UTC
[Bug 3743] ControlPersist forces ForkAfterAuthentication even when not wanted
https://bugzilla.mindrot.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3743 Shish <webmaster at shishnet.org> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|ControlMaster forces |ControlPersist forces |ForkAfterAuthentication |ForkAfterAuthentication |even when not wanted, and |even when not wanted |can't be disabled | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching the assignee of the bug. You are watching someone on the CC list of the bug.
bugzilla-daemon at mindrot.org
2024-Oct-14 15:41 UTC
[Bug 3743] ControlPersist forces ForkAfterAuthentication even when not wanted
https://bugzilla.mindrot.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3743 --- Comment #3 from Shish <webmaster at shishnet.org> --- Reading the docs and the source code for a few more hours, I am actually more confused than I was to start with... but one bit of clarity is that my confusion comes from detaching, not from forking per-se. Currently implemented behaviour seems to be: | ControlPersist=no | ControlPersist=yes ------------------------+-------------------+------------------------- ssh host sleep 10 | attached | attached ssh -f host sleep 10 | detached | detached ssh -N host | attached | detached (??) ssh -f -N host | detached | detached Rows 1, 2 and 4 make sense to me. Row 3 feels weird, like the detachment was a side-effect rather than intentional behaviour? The code comments seem to imply that the persistent master forks off into the background and expects a new mux-client to come along and run in the foreground (by default) or background (with -f) -- but in the case of -N, the new mux-client doesn't come along (or does it come along and exit immediately? I'm a bit lost here), and we're left with the master running in the background and the foreground becomes detached by default rather than by choice. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching someone on the CC list of the bug. You are watching the assignee of the bug.
bugzilla-daemon at mindrot.org
2024-Oct-17 23:00 UTC
[Bug 3743] ControlPersist forces ForkAfterAuthentication even when not wanted
https://bugzilla.mindrot.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3743 Damien Miller <djm at mindrot.org> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME Status|NEW |RESOLVED --- Comment #4 from Damien Miller <djm at mindrot.org> --- AFAIK the original issue here is closed. I'm neutral on the behaviour of -N with ControlPersist; if you really feel this is erroneous then please file a separate bug for that. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching someone on the CC list of the bug. You are watching the assignee of the bug.
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