Jim Klimov
2022-Jan-26 18:01 UTC
[Nut-upsuser] [Nut-upsdev] NUT Driver for Voltronic UPS Apex800
I agree this is a very weird situation now... there is effectively a bounty with a prize, to "just improve" an already existing driver with vendor docs/specs and other cooperation, and nobody steps up for a month :\ Possibly, people experienced with Qx drivers are all not online lately for whatever reasons, or too preoccupied to even reply; are there any others willing to try and too shy to speak up? (Speaking for myself, I am mostly coordinating high-level NUT integration and CI, and did not delve into many of the protocols, and lately am too overwhelmed with work and life to commit to any timed arrangements). I CC'ed the nut-upsuser list to maybe reach some more NUT-aware audience ready to try; otherwise some service like bountysource can be a way to find talent... Jim On Wed, Jan 26, 2022, 17:52 Pavel <pp at enfall.com> wrote:> Hello Jim, > > > > Our company is ready to make the payment for implementation of our > request. > > Could you please advise experienced person(s) who will able to make this > hardware for our UPS? > > Thank you in advance. > > _______________________________________ > > Best regards > > Pavel Popov > > company Enfall > > office: +7 499 322 88 23 (ext.102) > > mobile: +7 926 880 50 81 (Viber, WhatsApp, Wechat) > > e-mail: pp at enfall.com > > ENFALL > > energy for all > > > > *??????????? ? ??????????????????:* > > *??? ??????????? ????????? ? ????? ?????????, ??????????? ? ????, ???????? > ???????????????? ??????????. ????????? ?????????? ??? ? ???, ??? ???? ??? > ????????? ?? ????????????? ???, ?????????????, ???????????, ??????????????? > ??????????, ???????????? ? ????????? ?????????, ? ????? ????????????? ????? > ???????? ?? ?????? ???? ??????????, ?????? ?????????. ???? ?? ???????? ??? > ????????? ?? ??????, ??????????, ???????? ?? ???? ??????????? ?? > ??????????? ????? ? ??????? ??? ?????????. * > > *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:** This email and any files attached to it are > confidential. 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If you have received > this email in error please notify the sender and delete this email. * > > > > *??:* Jim Klimov [mailto:jimklimov at gmail.com] > *??????????:* 26 ?????? 2022 ?. 18:34 > *????:* Alexander > *?????:* Roger Price; Zolotukhin Vsevolod; Arnaud Quette; Pavel > *????:* Re: [Nut-upsdev] NUT Driver for Voltronic UPS Apex800 > > > > Matches our experience :( > > > > I am currently away from a computer so can't easily dig in NUT commit > history, but probably any non-cosmetic contributors to drivers and > subdrivers of megatec-compatible devices (Qx) can have the expertise > needed, and some did not work for competing vendors. > > > > Maybe it is time to train (and ideally support later on) a new expert for > the benefit of overall community... > > > > Jim > > > > On Wed, Jan 26, 2022, 13:50 Alexander <ak at enfall.com> wrote: > > Hi Jim, > > We emailed Daniele Pezzini at <hyouko at gmail.com> found in authorship > metadata in NUT git repo. But a week later, we still didn't get a response > from him. > > We also tried to find other developers in the Mailing lists on > networkupstools.org, but we couldn't find anyone other than Daniele > Pezzini. > Perhaps you know other developers who were involved in the Voltronic UPS? > > > > Best regards > > Alexander Kirillov > > company Enfall > > mobile: +7 904 333 38 86 (WhatsApp, Telegram) > > e-mail: ak at enfall.com > > ENFALL > > energy for all > > > > *??????????? ? ??????????????????:* > > *??? ??????????? ????????? ? ????? ?????????, ??????????? ? ????, ???????? > ???????????????? ??????????. ????????? ?????????? ??? ? ???, ??? ???? ??? > ????????? ?? ????????????? ???, ?????????????, ???????????, ??????????????? > ??????????, ???????????? ? ????????? ?????????, ? ????? ????????????? ????? > ???????? ?? ?????? ???? ??????????, ?????? ?????????. ???? ?? ???????? ??? > ????????? ?? ??????, ??????????, ???????? ?? ???? ??????????? ?? > ??????????? ????? ? ??????? ??? ?????????. * > > *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:** This email and any files attached to it are > confidential. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that > using, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the > contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received > this email in error please notify the sender and delete this email. * > > > > > > > > *From:* Jim Klimov [mailto:jimklimov at gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2022 5:11 PM > *To:* Pavel <pp at enfall.com> > *Cc:* Roger Price <roger at rogerprice.org>; Zolotukhin Vsevolod < > vz at enfall.com>; Arnaud Quette <arnaud.quette at gmail.com>; Alexander < > ak at enfall.com> > *Subject:* Re: [Nut-upsdev] NUT Driver for Voltronic UPS Apex800 > > > > The e-mail should be in commit authorship metadata in NUT git repo. > Problem is, Daniele did not respond to PR/issue comments, mails, etc. for a > long time and I have no info beyond that. > > > > Jim > > > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022, 15:03 Pavel <pp at enfall.com> wrote: > > Dear Jim, > > > > May you please share contacts of Daniele Pezzini? > > > > _______________________________________ > > Best regards > > Pavel Popov > > company Enfall > > office: +7 499 322 88 23 (ext.102) > > mobile: +7 926 880 50 81 (Viber, WhatsApp, Wechat) > > e-mail: pp at enfall.com > > ENFALL > > energy for all > > > > *??????????? ? ??????????????????:* > > *??? ??????????? ????????? ? ????? ?????????, ??????????? ? ????, ???????? > ???????????????? ??????????. ????????? ?????????? ??? ? ???, ??? ???? ??? > ????????? ?? ????????????? ???, ?????????????, ???????????, ??????????????? > ??????????, ???????????? ? ????????? ?????????, ? ????? ????????????? ????? > ???????? ?? ?????? ???? ??????????, ?????? ?????????. ???? ?? ???????? ??? > ????????? ?? ??????, ??????????, ???????? ?? ???? ??????????? ?? > ??????????? ????? ? ??????? ??? ?????????. * > > *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:** This email and any files attached to it are > confidential. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that > using, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the > contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received > this email in error please notify the sender and delete this email. * > > > > *??:* Jim Klimov [mailto:jimklimov at gmail.com] > *??????????:* 18 ?????? 2022 ?. 14:32 > *????:* Alexander > *?????:* Roger Price; Pavel; Zolotukhin Vsevolod; Arnaud Quette > *????:* Re: [Nut-upsdev] NUT Driver for Voltronic UPS Apex800 > > > > Looking at Git logs, it seems that earlier standalone > voltronic_usb/voltronic_ser drivers, and later nutdrv_qx covering many > related devices and "Qx" protocol variants, were primarily developed by > Daniele Pezzini who was not active for the past year or so. > > > > "General understanding" of what needs to be done, if you had e.g. a local > developer to start with this "from scratch", is to fork > https://github.com/networkupstools/nut , check out your fork and make a > new branch from "master" locally, review docs/ directory (design docs and > specifics for new-drivers.txt and nutdev_qx-subdrivers.txt), and extend its > existing voltronic subdrivers (there are at least 3 files for it; IIRC > covering commons, a text and a binary protocol). And post a PR back on > github :) > > > > The config-prereqs.txt covers the list of dependencies for several OS > platforms used by the CI farm. Also check docs for the "explore" mode as > the keyword, maybe it would lead to ways for mapping data points reported > by the device (not sure it is done for Qx, but there are automations to > bootstrap new USB HID and SNMP subdrivers for example). > > > > Other subdrivers (and older standalone Qx drivers heading to depreciation) > can be good inspiration as maybe they handle similar support already, and > also the recent PRs that added Qx subdrivers like #1135 to see the typical > change scope involved (recipes, docs, etc). > > > > Jim > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022, 11:55 Alexander <ak at enfall.com> wrote: > > Hello Jim and Roger, > > Thanks for your reply. > > We are waiting for any of the developers to be interested in this issue, > but so far the answer has come only from you. > > Jim, > you called our issue a "quest" :), so you have some understanding of what > is needed to ensure the compatibility of Voltronic Apex800 with the > > NUT? > Perhaps you can tell us the contacts of the developers who could help us > or send them our request? > Do you know a specific developer who was involved in the Voltronic UPS? > > > > Best regards > > Alexander Kirillov > > company Enfall > > mobile: +7 904 333 38 86 (WhatsApp, Telegram) > > e-mail: ak at enfall.com > > ENFALL > > energy for all > > > > *??????????? ? ??????????????????:* > > *??? ??????????? ????????? ? ????? ?????????, ??????????? ? ????, ???????? > ???????????????? ??????????. ????????? ?????????? ??? ? ???, ??? ???? ??? > ????????? ?? ????????????? ???, ?????????????, ???????????, ??????????????? > ??????????, ???????????? ? ????????? ?????????, ? ????? ????????????? ????? > ???????? ?? ?????? ???? ??????????, ?????? ?????????. ???? ?? ???????? ??? > ????????? ?? ??????, ??????????, ???????? ?? ???? ??????????? ?? > ??????????? ????? ? ??????? ??? ?????????. * > > *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:** This email and any files attached to it are > confidential. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that > using, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the > contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received > this email in error please notify the sender and delete this email. * > > > > > > > > *From:* Jim Klimov [mailto:jimklimov at gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2022 10:48 AM > *To:* Roger Price <roger at rogerprice.org> > *Cc:* Alexander <ak at enfall.com>; nut-upsdev Nut Developer Mailing List < > nut-upsdev at lists.alioth.debian.org>; Pavel <pp at enfall.com>; Zolotukhin > Vsevolod <vz at enfall.com>; Arnaud Quette <arnaud.quette at gmail.com> > *Subject:* Re: [Nut-upsdev] NUT Driver for Voltronic UPS Apex800 > > > > Still, I'd hope some developers with time and skill would be eager to pick > up this quest (and tell us) :) > > > > Jim > > > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2022, 12:04 Roger Price <roger at rogerprice.org> wrote: > > On Wed, 12 Jan 2022, Alexander wrote: > > > I have not received a response since December 30, so I duplicate the > original > > message. Please confirm that you have received this email. > > Hello Alexander, Yes, we have received your messages as you can see in the > archives at https://alioth-lists.debian.net/pipermail/nut-upsdev/ > > > I represent Enfall LLC, our company profile is niche systems integrator > for > > the supply of power equipment, including UPS. > > > > The manufacturer Voltronic has an Apex800 UPS model. To supply this UPS > to the > > customer, we should first ensure the compatibility of this UPS model > with the > > NUT monitoring system. > ... > > 1. Please clarify whether it is technically possible to modify the > existing > > Voltronic driver for the Apex800 UPS and provide the ability to transfer > all > > data from the UPS to NUT in accordance with the list above? > > > > 2. In what time frame is it possible to modify the driver? > > > > 3. How much does it cost to upgrade the driver? > > > > 4. What information and materials do you need to improve the driver for > the > > Apex800, besides the protocol from Voltronic? We are ready to provide > and > > receive everything needed from the manufacturer. > > There may be a misunderstanding here. The NUT project is a community of > volunteers who work on the project's software. The community answers > questions and offers support in its mailing lists but does not in itself > do paid consultancy. Individual members of the project may also be > consultants but that is outside the project itself. > > Best regards, Roger Price > >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://alioth-lists.debian.net/pipermail/nut-upsuser/attachments/20220126/05389dc2/attachment-0001.htm>