I thought more info might help Maybe its broadcasting on the lan fine. When I can figure out how to check that?? And Zebra is trying to broadcast to the net which I am thinking is not needed. May 20 23:49:21 ns1 kernel: Shorewall:net2all:DROP:IN=eth0 OUT= MACSRC=64.42.53.202 DST=64.42.53.207 LEN=92 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=520 DPT=520 LEN=72 [root@ns1 zebra-0.94]# I need ripd and zebra so packets coming from 172.30.0.15 iseries Big Blue going through the ipsec tunnel can talk to 10.19.227.193. I have recently found out that General Motors uses RIP1 to give routes for this kind of purpose. I have added the route statically for the Lan clients to talk to 10.19.227.193 with 10.0.0.0/8. Also the ipsec folks need access to 10.19.227.193 The internal for shorewall is 10.19.227.20 (eth1) Thank you Mike Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 64.42.53.200 * 255.255.255.248 U 0 0 0 eth0 64.42.53.200 * 255.255.255.248 U 0 0 0 ipsec0 10.19.227.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 172.30.0.0 64-42-53-201.at 255.255.0.0 UG 0 0 0 ipsec0 10.0.0.0 10.19.227.193 255.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth1 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo default 64-42-53-201.at 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 [root@ns1 zebra-0.94]#