R help - Jan 2019 - BLUPS from lme models

The bottom of page 276 of the "Gold Book" Modern Applied Statistics by
Venables and Ripley, 4th edition, the last sentence states: 

"Random effects are set either to zero or to their BLUP values."

Am I correct in inferring from that, it amounts respectively to
removing the random term from the model, or setting it as a fixed
effect?  To get something meaningful, one needs to choose which random
effects are relevant to the topic under study? 

Thank you.

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No.

But as this is a statistical issue and not an R programming issue, it is
off topic here. Post on stats.stackexchange.com or other statistical list
and/or spend time with web tutorials.

Cheers,
Bert

Bert Gunter

"The trouble with having an open mind is that people keep coming along and
sticking things into it."
-- Opus (aka Berkeley Breathed in his "Bloom County" comic strip )


On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 5:55 PM Patrick Connolly <p_connolly at
slingshot.co.nz>
wrote:
> The bottom of page 276 of the "Gold Book" Modern Applied
Statistics by
> Venables and Ripley, 4th edition, the last sentence states:
>
> "Random effects are set either to zero or to their BLUP values."
>
> Am I correct in inferring from that, it amounts respectively to
> removing the random term from the model, or setting it as a fixed
> effect?  To get something meaningful, one needs to choose which random
> effects are relevant to the topic under study?
>
> Thank you.
>
> --
> ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.
>    ___    Patrick Connolly
>  {~._.~}                   Great minds discuss ideas
>  _( Y )_                 Average minds discuss events
> (:_~*~_:)                  Small minds discuss people
>  (_)-(_)                              ..... Eleanor Roosevelt
>
> ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.
>
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