Hi, Thank you so much for your reply, I've a dedicated server in OVH, where I have done speed test for the server : *bkf at xxxxx ~> speedtest-cli Retrieving speedtest.net <http://speedtest.net> configuration...Retrieving speedtest.net <http://speedtest.net> server list...Testing from OVH SAS (x.x.x.x)...Selecting best server based on latency...Hosted by fdcservers.net <http://fdcservers.net> (Paris) [1.88 km]: 6.488 msTesting download speed........................................Download: 900.46 Mbit/sTesting upload speed..................................................Upload: 282.95 Mbit/s* Is it enough for up 5k listeners ? Could you please give me best Providers for streaming ? Thanks. Regards On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 12:53 AM Robert Jeffares <jeffares.robert at gmail.com> wrote:> Hi BKF, > > you can configure icecast to serve thousands of listeners but it's not > going to happen on anything less then an industrial strength internet > connection. > > If you have ADSL you can probably handle 5 listeners maybe 10 on an > average service. > > If you have VDSL increase that to 15 maybe. > > If you have fibre it might do 25. > > It all depends on the service provided by your ISP and the condition of > the cabling between the local switch and your location. > > They control how much data you can send and recieve even on " unlomited " > > Then it depends on the modem router, and your in house network, although > these are less likely problem areas. > > If you want 5000 listeners you have to send audio to a Streaming Service > Provider who has a BIG internet upload capability which costs money. > > There are some that charge rather low rates for 200-1000 connections > because they know that while you pay for capability very few stations have > more then one or two listeners on line at any time. > > I support one that has up to 200 listeners and we may be at 40 or so > except when there is some critical news breaking which takes us over the > 100. > > We have a feed for an app and a feed for tunein and a feed for the > website. The app has the highest usage > On 21/10/18 12:17 AM, Abdelkader BKF wrote: > > Hi all, > First of all, thank you for supporting us. > I've installed Libretime (https://github.com/LibreTime/libretime) which > user Icecast2 on Ubuntu Server 16.04. > I've also developed a mobile application to listen to stream > myhost:8000/mount. > My problem is when the number of listeners increases up 500 (On live > streaming with butt), the application blockes, and I hardly get info from > myhost:8000/status-json.xsl. > My question is : How shoud I configure my Ubuntu / Icecast / Liquidsoup to > allow more than 5000 listeners to listen music without any issue. > > Thanks. > > Regards. > > BKF-Dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing listIcecast at xiph.orghttp://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast >-- BOUKHELF Abdelkader Analyst / Developer Software Engineer - (Information System) Skype : akaderb Mobile : (+213) 556 45 38 71. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/icecast/attachments/20181021/829bb125/attachment.html>
Jordan Erickson
2018-Oct-21 16:05 UTC
[Icecast] Configure Ubuntu Server 16.04 for icecast2
Hi, 283000/5000=56.6 So with ~283Mb/s upstream, if you wanted 5,000 listener capacity your streams would have to have a bitrate of 56.6kb/s or lower. Cheers, Jordan On 10/21/18 4:03 AM, Abdelkader BKF wrote:> Hi, > Thank you so much for your reply, > I've a dedicated server in OVH, where I have done speed test for the > server : > > *bkf at xxxxx ~> speedtest-cli > Retrieving speedtest.net <http://speedtest.net> configuration... > Retrieving speedtest.net <http://speedtest.net> server list... > Testing from OVH SAS (x.x.x.x)... > Selecting best server based on latency... > Hosted by fdcservers.net <http://fdcservers.net> (Paris) [1.88 km]: 6.488 ms > Testing download speed........................................ > Download: 900.46 Mbit/s > Testing upload speed.................................................. > Upload: 282.95 Mbit/s* > > Is it enough for up 5k listeners ? Could you please give me best > Providers for streaming ?
On Oct 21, 2018, at 12:05, Jordan Erickson <jordan at coolmic.net> wrote:> 283000/5000=56.6 > > So with ~283Mb/s upstream, if you wanted 5,000 listener capacity your > streams would have to have a bitrate of 56.6kb/s or lower.Speaking conservatively, I would de-rate that number by 50%, or in other words: 0.5*283000/5000=28.3 kb/sec. This to account for various overheads (TCP/IP packet framing and negotiation, data bursting at stream startup, administrative interface traffic, etc. It all adds up. Cheers! |----------------------------------------------------------------------| | Frederick F. Gleason, Jr. | Chief Developer | | | Paravel Systems | |----------------------------------------------------------------------| | A room without books is like a body without a soul. | | -- Cicero | |----------------------------------------------------------------------| -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/icecast/attachments/20181021/ce7c186a/attachment.html>
Robert Jeffares
2018-Nov-02 22:32 UTC
[Icecast] Configure Ubuntu Server 16.04 for icecast2
Bonjour, *Upload: 282.95 Mbit/s* is going to choke at about 5 listeners * * You need a streaming server provider. https://shoutca.st/ is an example but there are many. Don't buy 5k listeners buy 100 and see how it goes. *regards* *Robert* * * * * On 22/10/18 12:03 AM, Abdelkader BKF wrote:> Hi, > Thank you so much for your reply, > I've a dedicated server in OVH, where I have done speed test for the > server : > > *bkf at xxxxx ~> speedtest-cli > Retrieving speedtest.net <http://speedtest.net> configuration... > Retrieving speedtest.net <http://speedtest.net> server list... > Testing from OVH SAS (x.x.x.x)... > Selecting best server based on latency... > Hosted by fdcservers.net <http://fdcservers.net> (Paris) [1.88 km]: > 6.488 ms > Testing download speed........................................ > Download: 900.46 Mbit/s > Testing upload speed.................................................. > Upload: 282.95 Mbit/s* > > Is it enough for up 5k listeners ? Could you please give me best > Providers for streaming ? > > Thanks. > Regards > > On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 12:53 AM Robert Jeffares > <jeffares.robert at gmail.com <mailto:jeffares.robert at gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hi BKF, > > you can configure icecast to serve thousands of listeners but it's > not going to happen on anything less then an industrial strength > internet connection. > > If you have ADSL you can probably handle 5 listeners maybe 10 on > an average service. > > If you have VDSL increase that to 15 maybe. > > If you have fibre it might do 25. > > It all depends on the service provided by your ISP and the > condition of the cabling between the local switch and your location. > > They control how much data you can send and recieve even on " > unlomited " > > Then it depends on the modem router, and your in house network, > although these are less likely problem areas. > > If you want 5000 listeners you have to send audio to a Streaming > Service Provider who has a BIG internet upload capability which > costs money. > > There are some that charge rather low rates for 200-1000 > connections because they know that while you pay for capability > very few stations have more then one or two listeners on line at > any time. > > I support one that has up to 200 listeners and we may be at 40 or > so except when there is some critical news breaking which takes us > over the 100. > > We have a feed for an app and a feed for tunein and a feed for the > website. The app has the highest usage > > On 21/10/18 12:17 AM, Abdelkader BKF wrote: >> Hi all, >> First of all, thank you for supporting us. >> I've installed Libretime (https://github.com/LibreTime/libretime) >> which user Icecast2 on Ubuntu Server 16.04. >> I've also developed a mobile application to listen to stream >> myhost:8000/mount. >> My problem is when the number of listeners increases up 500 (On >> live streaming with butt), the application blockes, and I hardly >> get info from myhost:8000/status-json.xsl. >> My question is : How shoud I configure my Ubuntu / Icecast / >> Liquidsoup to allow more than 5000 listeners to listen music >> without any issue. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Regards. >> >> BKF-Dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Icecast mailing list >> Icecast at xiph.org <mailto:Icecast at xiph.org> >> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org <mailto:Icecast at xiph.org> > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > > > > -- > BOUKHELF Abdelkader > Analyst / Developer Software Engineer - (Information System) > Skype : akaderb > Mobile : (+213) 556 45 38 71. > > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/icecast/attachments/20181103/591e6723/attachment-0001.html>
You have confused megabits for kilobits. The number of listeners depends on the bitrate of the stream. Assuming a 64kb/s stream, 282.95 Mb/s will support 4400 listeners, but more likely 4000. Ross. From: Icecast [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org] On Behalf Of Robert Jeffares Sent: Saturday, 3 November 2018 11:33 a.m. To: icecast at xiph.org Subject: Re: [Icecast] Configure Ubuntu Server 16.04 for icecast2 Bonjour, Upload: 282.95 Mbit/s is going to choke at about 5 listeners You need a streaming server provider. https://shoutca.st/ is an example but there are many. Don't buy 5k listeners buy 100 and see how it goes. regards Robert On 22/10/18 12:03 AM, Abdelkader BKF wrote: Hi, Thank you so much for your reply, I've a dedicated server in OVH, where I have done speed test for the server : bkf at xxxxx ~> speedtest-cli Retrieving speedtest.net configuration... Retrieving speedtest.net server list... Testing from OVH SAS (x.x.x.x)... Selecting best server based on latency... Hosted by fdcservers.net (Paris) [1.88 km]: 6.488 ms Testing download speed........................................ Download: 900.46 Mbit/s Testing upload speed.................................................. Upload: 282.95 Mbit/s Is it enough for up 5k listeners ? Could you please give me best Providers for streaming ? Thanks. Regards On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 12:53 AM Robert Jeffares <jeffares.robert at gmail.com> wrote: Hi BKF, you can configure icecast to serve thousands of listeners but it's not going to happen on anything less then an industrial strength internet connection. If you have ADSL you can probably handle 5 listeners maybe 10 on an average service. If you have VDSL increase that to 15 maybe. If you have fibre it might do 25. It all depends on the service provided by your ISP and the condition of the cabling between the local switch and your location. They control how much data you can send and recieve even on " unlomited " Then it depends on the modem router, and your in house network, although these are less likely problem areas. If you want 5000 listeners you have to send audio to a Streaming Service Provider who has a BIG internet upload capability which costs money. There are some that charge rather low rates for 200-1000 connections because they know that while you pay for capability very few stations have more then one or two listeners on line at any time. I support one that has up to 200 listeners and we may be at 40 or so except when there is some critical news breaking which takes us over the 100. We have a feed for an app and a feed for tunein and a feed for the website. The app has the highest usage On 21/10/18 12:17 AM, Abdelkader BKF wrote: Hi all, First of all, thank you for supporting us. I've installed Libretime (https://github.com/LibreTime/libretime) which user Icecast2 on Ubuntu Server 16.04. I've also developed a mobile application to listen to stream myhost:8000/mount. My problem is when the number of listeners increases up 500 (On live streaming with butt), the application blockes, and I hardly get info from myhost:8000/status-json.xsl. My question is : How shoud I configure my Ubuntu / Icecast / Liquidsoup to allow more than 5000 listeners to listen music without any issue. Thanks. Regards. BKF-Dev _______________________________________________ Icecast mailing list Icecast at xiph.org http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast _______________________________________________ Icecast mailing list Icecast at xiph.org http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast -- BOUKHELF Abdelkader Analyst / Developer Software Engineer - (Information System) Skype : akaderb Mobile : (+213) 556 45 38 71. _______________________________________________ Icecast mailing list Icecast at xiph.org http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/icecast/attachments/20181103/f8134942/attachment.html>