On the upgrade issues page (http://www.shorewall.net/upgrade_issues.htm) you will find a number of sections with names like "Version >= 1.4.0", "Version >= 1.3.14", etc. The section entitled "Version >= 1.4.0" presents the considerations if you are upgrading from version 1.3.14 only. So If you are upgrading from version 1.3.10, you should also read the section entitled Version >= 1.3.14". If you are upgrading from a 1.2.x version, you should read the entire page. In other words, it is important that you read all of the sections on this page where the version mentioned in the section title is newer than what you are currently running. -Tom -- Tom Eastep \ Shorewall - iptables made easy Shoreline, \ http://shorewall.sf.net Washington USA \ teastep@shorewall.net