I see here: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?ctx=gmail&hl=en&answer=75725 that Google is now rolling out IMAP access for Gmail accounts. I''ve been waiting for sup to have Gmail access before using it full-time - what does this development mean for sup/Gmail interaction now? I''d test this with sup myself but my Gmail account doesn''t have IMAP access yet :(. Cheers, Tim
On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 08:51:28AM +0100, Tim Vaughan wrote:> I see here: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?ctx=gmail&hl=en&answer=75725 > that Google is now rolling out IMAP access for Gmail accounts. > I''ve been waiting for sup to have Gmail access before using it > full-time - what does this development mean for sup/Gmail interaction > now? > I''d test this with sup myself but my Gmail account doesn''t have IMAP > access yet :(. >Thanks for the heads up, I just created a gmail account and added imap support. Mutt to only a few minutes to get it to read imap. Now on to sup... =K -- | .''''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :'' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `'' Operating System | go to counter.li.org and | | `- http://www.debian.org/ | be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |_______ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed _______|
Excerpts from Tim Vaughan''s message of Wed Oct 24 00:51:28 -0700 2007:> I see here: > http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?ctx=gmail&hl=en&answer=75725 > that Google is now rolling out IMAP access for Gmail accounts. > I''ve been waiting for sup to have Gmail access before using it > full-time - what does this development mean for sup/Gmail interaction > now?It means that I don''t have to write a gmail bridge any more. You can just use IMAP. Procrastination rewarded! -- William <wmorgan-sup at masanjin.net>
> It means that I don''t have to write a gmail bridge any more. You can > just use IMAP. Procrastination rewarded!Woo :). I now have sup set up with ssmtp and Gmail over IMAP and it seems to be working fine - a few observations: * Google has hacked together folder <->label translation. Labels in sup don''t correspond to IMAP folders as far as I can tell, so I either use Gmail labels or sup labels, not both. * I''ve created filters in Gmail for mailing lists which automatically archive and label incoming mail. I can add an IMAP folder in Gmail as a source to catch this mail, but perhaps I would be better off not having Gmail filters altogether if I intend to use sup fulltime? * Furthermore, due to having to rebuild the index when I use the Gmail web interface, should I never use the Gmail web interface?
Excerpts from Tim Vaughan''s message of Sat Oct 27 09:28:45 -0700 2007:> I now have sup set up with ssmtp and Gmail over IMAP and it seems to > be working fineGreat!> * Google has hacked together folder <->label translation. Labels in > sup don''t correspond to IMAP folders as far as I can tell, so I either > use Gmail labels or sup labels, not both.Interesting. So I assume this means that a single message will appear in multiple "folders", one for each label. Slightly weird, but Sup should handle dupes fine.> * I''ve created filters in Gmail for mailing lists which automatically > archive and label incoming mail. I can add an IMAP folder in Gmail as > a source to catch this mail, but perhaps I would be better off not > having Gmail filters altogether if I intend to use sup fulltime?There should be no problem with using Gmail to filter or classify mail in this manner. I use procmail to do exactly the same thing locally. One day Sup will use procmail to perform its own filtering, but that will be an added bonus and won''t interfere with any per-source autoapplied labels.> * Furthermore, due to having to rebuild the index when I use the Gmail > web interface, should I never use the Gmail web interface?It''s up to you. Sup doesn''t play well with others. You can either run sup-sync --changed every time you use the web interface, or you can use Sup''s superior interface and functionality exclusively. :) -- William <wmorgan-sup at masanjin.net>
Excerpts from Kevin Mark''s message of Wed Oct 24 09:47:57 +0100 2007:> Thanks for the heads up, I just created a gmail account and added imap > support. Mutt to only a few minutes to get it to read imap. Now on to > sup...I''d be interested to know how you get on. A couple of things I''ve noticed after using sup for a day or two: * Gmail seems to store messages sent with its SMTP server so when a brand-new email is sent it appears in the inbox. This is a bit annoying but I don''t think that you can make sup store its sent emails in an IMAP folder. * Sometimes I load a largeish thread and find that a thread has a red line with "message not downloaded" in it. * Feature request: saved searches! * Is there a way to make sup reply from the address an email was sent to (like Gmail does when it handles more than one account)? * Sup is great but having to rebuild the index every time I use Gmail''s web interface to send an email hurts :(. Although I realise that''s just the Way Things Are. I''m really hoping I can start using sup full time though rather than Gmail''s web interface because it''s so much more fun! -- Tim Vaughan 07725749263
Excerpts from Tim Vaughan''s message of Mon Oct 29 10:17:57 -0700 2007:> * Gmail seems to store messages sent with its SMTP server so when a > brand-new email is sent it appears in the inbox. This is a bit > annoying but I don''t think that you can make sup store its sent emails > in an IMAP folder.This is correct. I don''t ever plan to write IMAP saving code, but I would accept a patch to this effect.> * Sometimes I load a largeish thread and find that a thread has a red > line with "message not downloaded" in it.If you mean a "message not received" line in Sup, that signifies that some message had a References: header that mentioned some message id that never occurred. So it could be symptomatic of someone replying to an off-list message, or it could be a corrupted References: header, or it could be a message that you just didn''t receive for whatever reason. (Or that isn''t stored in Gmail.)> * Feature request: saved searches!Acknowledged. On the todo.> * Is there a way to make sup reply from the address an email was sent > to (like Gmail does when it handles more than one account)?If you add an account to config.yaml with that email address, it should start replying from it as well. Unfortunately this is still a manual process at this point.> * Sup is great but having to rebuild the index every time I use > Gmail''s web interface to send an email hurts :(. Although I realise > that''s just the Way Things Are.Sadly, yes... -- William <wmorgan-sup at masanjin.net>