On 07/28/2017 10:26 AM, wwp wrote:> Hello Johnny, > > > On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 08:58:16 -0500 Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org> wrote: > >> On 07/28/2017 07:51 AM, wwp wrote: >>> Hello Johnny, >>> >>> >>> On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 07:14:49 -0500 Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org> wrote: >>> >>>> On 07/28/2017 07:04 AM, wwp wrote: >>>>> Hello Johnny, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 05:44:33 -0500 Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 07/28/2017 05:40 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: >>>>>>> On 07/27/2017 12:25 PM, wwp wrote: >>>>>>>> Hello there, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've just got a Dell XPS 15 (9590) at work and need to set up a stable >>>>>>>> GNU/Linux system on it. I thought of CentOS7, but.. obviously its >>>>>>>> kernel can't run on this hardware. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What would you recommend? Waiting for CentOS8 is not an option unless >>>>>>>> it's a question of few weeks. Are there respins of the CentOS7 DVDs w/ >>>>>>>> more top-recent kernels? I'm know of Fedora 26 or course, and not >>>>>>>> willing to switch to Ubuntu 16.10 at all. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have an experimental 4.9.x kernel stream for x86_64. Let me see if I >>>>>>> can create a live-dvd that boots with that kernel and installs. >>>>>> >>>>>> 4.9 kernel tree for CentOS-7 that is. >>>>>> >>>>>> It lives here: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://mirror.centos.org/altarch/7/experimental/x86_64/ >>>>>> >>>>>> (currently pushing a 4.9.39 kernel there) >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, if I succeed in installing a C7, I'll make use of it and >>>>> provide feedback. >>>>> >>>> >>>> hmmm .. the live ISO fails to boot .. there is not squashfs module .. >>>> let me see if I can fix that. >>> >>> Where could I get an ISO (once fixed), I only saw RPMs at the link you >>> pasted? Or do I have to assemble myself in some way? >>> >> >> Once I get a working ISO that installs, I'll post a link. >> >> You would have to set up the experimental repo in /etc/yum.repos.d/ to >> get kernel updates, and those would be RPM only. >> >> In fact, I have a live ISO now that installs (in KVM) .. but I still >> need to make sure this kernel updates correctly from the experimental >> repo. >> >> The kernel (and linux-firmware) rpms are unsigned, but should upgrade >> from the experimental repo for future upgrades and those are signed. >> >> So, I should have something installable sometime in the next few hours >> that you can try. > > I've just succeeded in installing CentOS7 from the DVD! Had no luck > using a Live CD (both dd'ed to a flash drive). > > Hardware support is not complete (or not configured as-is): > - bluetooth not working > - HDMI ouput -> nothing > - dell Fn keys -> no screen light, no wifi toggle > - no suspend/hibernate > > I will now try to inject more recent kernels (yours *) or extra firmware, > see how I can find better hardware support and configuration. And > compare this to what Fedora 26 provides.. > > (*) BTW, I installed your 4.9.39 kernel (did a yum update after > configuring a repo file to get your stuff) and at boot, I immediately > get: > error: $KERNEL_NAME_HERE has invalid signature > error: you need to load the kernel first >There are actually 2 kernels, one on the live DVD I just posted, and one in the experimental repo. Both of those would require NO secure boot turned on, but they both should work fine with UEFI and secure boot off. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20170728/204140fa/attachment-0001.sig>
Hello Johnny, On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 10:33:15 -0500 Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org> wrote:> On 07/28/2017 10:26 AM, wwp wrote: > > Hello Johnny, > > > > > > On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 08:58:16 -0500 Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org> wrote: > > > >> On 07/28/2017 07:51 AM, wwp wrote: > >>> Hello Johnny, > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 07:14:49 -0500 Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On 07/28/2017 07:04 AM, wwp wrote: > >>>>> Hello Johnny, > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 05:44:33 -0500 Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 07/28/2017 05:40 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: > >>>>>>> On 07/27/2017 12:25 PM, wwp wrote: > >>>>>>>> Hello there, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I've just got a Dell XPS 15 (9590) at work and need to set up a stable > >>>>>>>> GNU/Linux system on it. I thought of CentOS7, but.. obviously its > >>>>>>>> kernel can't run on this hardware. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> What would you recommend? Waiting for CentOS8 is not an option unless > >>>>>>>> it's a question of few weeks. Are there respins of the CentOS7 DVDs w/ > >>>>>>>> more top-recent kernels? I'm know of Fedora 26 or course, and not > >>>>>>>> willing to switch to Ubuntu 16.10 at all. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I have an experimental 4.9.x kernel stream for x86_64. Let me see if I > >>>>>>> can create a live-dvd that boots with that kernel and installs. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 4.9 kernel tree for CentOS-7 that is. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> It lives here: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> http://mirror.centos.org/altarch/7/experimental/x86_64/ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> (currently pushing a 4.9.39 kernel there) > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks, if I succeed in installing a C7, I'll make use of it and > >>>>> provide feedback. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> hmmm .. the live ISO fails to boot .. there is not squashfs module .. > >>>> let me see if I can fix that. > >>> > >>> Where could I get an ISO (once fixed), I only saw RPMs at the link you > >>> pasted? Or do I have to assemble myself in some way? > >>> > >> > >> Once I get a working ISO that installs, I'll post a link. > >> > >> You would have to set up the experimental repo in /etc/yum.repos.d/ to > >> get kernel updates, and those would be RPM only. > >> > >> In fact, I have a live ISO now that installs (in KVM) .. but I still > >> need to make sure this kernel updates correctly from the experimental > >> repo. > >> > >> The kernel (and linux-firmware) rpms are unsigned, but should upgrade > >> from the experimental repo for future upgrades and those are signed. > >> > >> So, I should have something installable sometime in the next few hours > >> that you can try. > > > > I've just succeeded in installing CentOS7 from the DVD! Had no luck > > using a Live CD (both dd'ed to a flash drive). > > > > Hardware support is not complete (or not configured as-is): > > - bluetooth not working > > - HDMI ouput -> nothing > > - dell Fn keys -> no screen light, no wifi toggle > > - no suspend/hibernate > > > > I will now try to inject more recent kernels (yours *) or extra firmware, > > see how I can find better hardware support and configuration. And > > compare this to what Fedora 26 provides.. > > > > (*) BTW, I installed your 4.9.39 kernel (did a yum update after > > configuring a repo file to get your stuff) and at boot, I immediately > > get: > > error: $KERNEL_NAME_HERE has invalid signature > > error: you need to load the kernel first > > > > There are actually 2 kernels, one on the live DVD I just posted, and one > in the experimental repo. > > Both of those would require NO secure boot turned on, but they both > should work fine with UEFI and secure boot off.I see. It's true that secure boot is ON here. I'll turn it off, and also see your other email. Thanks a bunch! Regards, -- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 836 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20170728/97a9075a/attachment-0001.sig>
Hello Johnny, On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 10:33:15 -0500 Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org> wrote: [snip]> > I've just succeeded in installing CentOS7 from the DVD! Had no luck > > using a Live CD (both dd'ed to a flash drive). > > > > Hardware support is not complete (or not configured as-is): > > - bluetooth not working > > - HDMI ouput -> nothing > > - dell Fn keys -> no screen light, no wifi toggle > > - no suspend/hibernate > > > > I will now try to inject more recent kernels (yours *) or extra firmware, > > see how I can find better hardware support and configuration. And > > compare this to what Fedora 26 provides.. > > > > (*) BTW, I installed your 4.9.39 kernel (did a yum update after > > configuring a repo file to get your stuff) and at boot, I immediately > > get: > > error: $KERNEL_NAME_HERE has invalid signature > > error: you need to load the kernel first > > > > There are actually 2 kernels, one on the live DVD I just posted, and one > in the experimental repo. > > Both of those would require NO secure boot turned on, but they both > should work fine with UEFI and secure boot off.I could boot 4.9.39, it brings: - Dell features like screen light control and wireless toggle key, - dual screen support using the HDMI port, and maybe more that I couldn't see, wow! Regards, -- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 836 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20170728/d6ff691a/attachment-0001.sig>
On 07/28/2017 11:32 AM, wwp wrote:> Hello Johnny, > > > On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 10:33:15 -0500 Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org> wrote: > > [snip] >>> I've just succeeded in installing CentOS7 from the DVD! Had no luck >>> using a Live CD (both dd'ed to a flash drive). >>> >>> Hardware support is not complete (or not configured as-is): >>> - bluetooth not working >>> - HDMI ouput -> nothing >>> - dell Fn keys -> no screen light, no wifi toggle >>> - no suspend/hibernate >>> >>> I will now try to inject more recent kernels (yours *) or extra firmware, >>> see how I can find better hardware support and configuration. And >>> compare this to what Fedora 26 provides.. >>> >>> (*) BTW, I installed your 4.9.39 kernel (did a yum update after >>> configuring a repo file to get your stuff) and at boot, I immediately >>> get: >>> error: $KERNEL_NAME_HERE has invalid signature >>> error: you need to load the kernel first >>> >> >> There are actually 2 kernels, one on the live DVD I just posted, and one >> in the experimental repo. >> >> Both of those would require NO secure boot turned on, but they both >> should work fine with UEFI and secure boot off. > > I could boot 4.9.39, it brings: > - Dell features like screen light control and wireless toggle key, > - dual screen support using the HDMI port, > and maybe more that I couldn't see, wow! >I am using this experimental kernel on my workstation (lenovo w541). I have been using it for quite a long time and have not had any major issues. I also use it on my secondary workstation (lenovo h50-55). -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20170728/10a906df/attachment-0001.sig>