I'm interested in trying out the new OpenShot beta (2.06) on CentOS 7.
Openshot requires Python3.
so I look at available packages where I find a bunchof python3 packages
as well as python34 packages.
I'm assuming that python34 is version 3.4 of python, while python3 is some
other 3.x version.
Can anyone here explain to me what are the differences, any compatibility
across these versions, and how to tell which I need for OpenShot?
Thanks in adva ce!
Fred
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The Lord is like a strong tower.
Those who do what is right can run to him for safety.
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On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 10:07 AM, Fred Smith <fredex at fcshome.stoneham.ma.us> wrote:> I'm interested in trying out the new OpenShot beta (2.06) on CentOS 7. > Openshot requires Python3. > > so I look at available packages where I find a bunchof python3 packages > as well as python34 packages. > > I'm assuming that python34 is version 3.4 of python, while python3 is some > other 3.x version. > > Can anyone here explain to me what are the differences, any compatibility > across these versions, and how to tell which I need for OpenShot? >The dependencies section of OpenShot 2 beta README says: Python 3.0+ So, I would assume either one (python3 or python34) would work. But I have not tried building it under EL7 myself (on my ToDo list though). Akemi
On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 10:27:07AM -0800, Akemi Yagi wrote:> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 10:07 AM, Fred Smith <fredex at fcshome.stoneham.ma.us> > wrote: > > > I'm interested in trying out the new OpenShot beta (2.06) on CentOS 7. > > Openshot requires Python3. > > > > so I look at available packages where I find a bunchof python3 packages > > as well as python34 packages. > > > > I'm assuming that python34 is version 3.4 of python, while python3 is some > > other 3.x version. > > > > Can anyone here explain to me what are the differences, any compatibility > > across these versions, and how to tell which I need for OpenShot? > > > > The dependencies section of OpenShot 2 beta README says: > > Python 3.0+ > > So, I would assume either one (python3 or python34) would work. But I have > not tried building it under EL7 myself (on my ToDo list though). > > Akemithanks, Akemi! Related question: there are only a relative few python34 packages listed in yum, and quite a few more python3 packages. I wonder if (some of??) those python3 packages are compatible with python34? it would seem that unless that is the case, that python34 would be less useful due to lack of various features. -- ---- Fred Smith -- fredex at fcshome.stoneham.ma.us ----------------------------- Show me your ways, O LORD, teach me your paths; Guide me in your truth and teach me, for you are God my Savior, And my hope is in you all day long. -------------------------- Psalm 25:4-5 (NIV) --------------------------------
On 04/07/2016 09:04 AM, Nux! wrote:> Well, by the looks of it, it bundles all the deps in one archive, so you no longer depend on system ones, but also you miss out on system updates.I use a commercial professional multitrack audio mixing package called Mixbus (derived from Ardour, but with specialized DSP for the summing and for plugins; the portion derived from Ardour is open source, the DSP plugin code is closed source, and thanks to the plugin API is not a 'derived work' since it would be usable from any plugin host.....). This is the way Mixbus is bundled, with all deps prebuilt and stashed away in the proper /opt tree. Now, as to 'updates' specifically, yes, this puts it on the developer of the package to make sure updates that are necessary are actually applied. OpenSSL, for instance; although, I wouldn't think Openshot would use that one (Mixbus doesn't; in fact I'm not sure how it could be remotely exploited at all). So for certain things the 'bundled app' makes sense; for a server process it would not. Mixbus works very well on CentOS 7; I use it every week for longform broadcast production and mixdown, and just running the Harrison Consoles installer script 'Just Worked' as it was supposed to (if it doesn't the Mixbus devs get a message from me.....). Further, the official Ardour.org Ardour packages for Linux are similar bundles; at one time if you built it from source using the system libraries you were not guaranteed support or that it would even work. You run the installer script, and it just works on pretty much any modern Linux. All files, libraries, etc for all dependencies are loaded into the appropriate /opt tree (example:> [lowen at localhost ~]$ ls -d /opt/M* > /opt/Mixbus-2.5_14392 /opt/Mixbus-3.1.66.uninstall.sh > /opt/Mixbus-2.5_14392.uninstall.sh /opt/Mixbus-3.2.22 > /opt/Mixbus-3.1.66 /opt/Mixbus-3.2.22.uninstall.sh > [lowen at localhost ~]$ du -h --max-depth=1 /opt/Mixbus-3.2.22 > 104M /opt/Mixbus-3.2.22/bin > 212K /opt/Mixbus-3.2.22/etc > 132M /opt/Mixbus-3.2.22/lib > 17M /opt/Mixbus-3.2.22/share > 252M /opt/Mixbus-3.2.22 > [lowen at localhost ~]$Note that multiple versions at a time are fully supported, and the uninstaller is ready (and able) to run at any time. In fact, the installation script asks you one by one if you want to uninstall any of the prior versions. As you can see, I currently have three versions installed side-by-side. The installer script is in the open source portion of the program, available through the Ardour git. It does take more disk space to do this. And while I have always been a big fan of RPM and of always using the repos for things, I have to say that there are many things RPM packages do not do well for the most part.
> -----Original Message----- > From: centos-bounces at centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces at centos.org] On > Behalf Of Lamar Owen > Sent: den 7 april 2016 16:21 > To: CentOS mailing list <centos at centos.org> > Subject: Re: [CentOS] Openshot 2.x (beta) on C7?? > > It does take more disk space to do this. > > And while I have always been a big fan of RPM and of always using the > repos for things, I have to say that there are many things RPM packages > do not do well for the most part.Size is not too much of a problem in my book, as long as I don't have to spend hours on end to find out what repos have the proper dep's and doesn't mismatch with each other, in order to install the software I wanted in the first place. An OT sidetrack; has this appimage-thing been going on for some time now? Openshot is the first software I've seen that is delivered this way. -- //Sorin