I list, I'm new with backup ops and I'm searching a good system to accomplish this work. I know that on centos there are bacula and amanda but they are too tape oriented. Another is that they are very powerfull but more complex. I need a solution for small office for disk storage and I found Backup PC. Many people say that it is great for small stuff and for great number of data. What do you mean about Backup PC? Any experiences? What solution do you use? Thanks in advances.
Alessandro Baggi wrote:> I list, > I'm new with backup ops and I'm searching a good system to accomplish this > work. I know that on centos there are bacula and amanda but they are too > tape oriented. Another is that they are very powerfull but more complex. I > need a solution for small office for disk storage and I found Backup PC. > Many people say that it is great for small stuff and for great number of > data. > > What do you mean about Backup PC? > Any experiences? > What solution do you use?Les, who I'm sure will hop in, likes it. We have a home-grown system that automates rsync. mark
> On May 6, 2015, at 9:46 PM, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote: > > Alessandro Baggi wrote: >> I list, >> I'm new with backup ops and I'm searching a good system to accomplish this >> work. I know that on centos there are bacula and amanda but they are too >> tape oriented. Another is that they are very powerfull but more complex. I >> need a solution for small office for disk storage and I found Backup PC. >> Many people say that it is great for small stuff and for great number of >> data. >> >> What do you mean about Backup PC? >> Any experiences? >> What solution do you use? > > Les, who I'm sure will hop in, likes it. We have a home-grown system that > automates rsync. > > mark >I?ve been using BackupPC for several years for my 10 hosts, and works extremely well, however it can take a lot of disk space, so I?d recommend a dedicated drive for the backups. I?ve restored many files over the years but haven?t as yet needed to do a bare metal restore. One further recommendation I have is that you might also consider a second host that backs up the primary backup host in the event that it fails, which is what I?m doing, and because I have it I backup all my hosts to 2 different servers. The BackupPC list is very active at times and can provide you with lots of tips and help. Pete
m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote:> Alessandro Baggi wrote: >> I list, >> I'm new with backup ops and I'm searching a good system to accomplish >> this work. I know that on centos there are bacula and amanda but they are >> too tape oriented. Another is that they are very powerfull but morecomplex.>> I need a solution for small office for disk storage and I found Backup PC. >> Many people say that it is great for small stuff and for great number of >> data. >> >> What do you mean about Backup PC? >> Any experiences? >> What solution do you use? > > Les, who I'm sure will hop in, likes it. We have a home-grown system that > automates rsync.Oh, let me add that we use rsync with hard links, which saves a *lot* of space, and time. mark
On Wed, May 6, 2015 2:46 pm, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote:> Alessandro Baggi wrote: >> I list, >> I'm new with backup ops and I'm searching a good system to accomplish >> this >> work. I know that on centos there are bacula and amanda but they are >> too >> tape oriented. Another is that they are very powerfull but more complex. >> I >> need a solution for small office for disk storage and I found Backup PC. >> Many people say that it is great for small stuff and for great number of >> data. >> >> What do you mean about Backup PC? >> Any experiences? >> What solution do you use? > > Les, who I'm sure will hop in, likes it. We have a home-grown system that > automates rsync. >My assistant liked backuppc. It is OK and will do decent job for really small number of machines (thinking 3-4 IMHO). I run bacula which has close to a hundred of clients; all is stored in files on RAID units, no tapes. Once you configure it it is nice. But to make a configuration work for the first time is really challenging (says one who still managed to configure it ;-) Good luck! Valeri ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Don't dismiss Amanda it works well in a disk based setup. I don't bother with the spooling disk though. I back up to virtual tape slots on an external disk and rotate three external disks; two are in the firesafe at work, one is on top of my PC. On 06/05/15 20:21, Alessandro Baggi wrote:> I list, I'm new with backup ops and I'm searching a good system to > accomplish this work. I know that on centos there are bacula and > amanda but they are too tape oriented. Another is that they are > very powerfull but more complex. I need a solution for small office > for disk storage and I found Backup PC. Many people say that it is > great for small stuff and for great number of data. > > What do you mean about Backup PC? Any experiences? What solution do > you use? > > Thanks in advances. > _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing > list CentOS at centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVSoxqAAoJEAF3yXsqtyBl7D0QAIcxxZPq8/CqQzP1apo+fKGa BimbScb4zf7fx9OH3C/8fmFUtxSiIXSCXqYT2AwStPaLnhqaeXchjOmLnT4Ev4Sb 37u64ykIi5Umu8ukJwtwpcD3eoW61Xy5rErf7g5oxKa4GOYtWrCOi7QEop9g/oh1 yQSEMVj2L0Y7wA5uzkKQJ58sicONUC58ZFGHNlpAMykAxD5p0vUn1bccCOWyGT/2 jduwLusLr4rbI46pTnD4hoVri4w3AjIzdi/wZySlq2ZSapOIc+PHP5CdKttKh4dd OFZvk3Y572S/6/T/wWgL7R6ve1OHeEh3kyTV51tiLpT28gmKD17kSWjXjBjiAoWt j4mfsVQdKC7nVNBRw+VJz7+LhHNaINc/23DquB5QjGzdsdOPfZbIFiqfT1YS0O2V rNrswvlTRFDXGauhE77GeFj8wfr9YjGbF/mmpl8sFeyzcVk1r+UdMg3qYZNVdm/p GRKaiC31ilsKZVGH6TSPkHyo3N22wM0A5gPF2wcpXs5cVAN9EcKSLxMVSMCLKT4h gImmnV21zrCVyDO59H2GiqO49vtrakDULI1zdo9nB58Rw4Tfp2HIgiRij1O46MFB TJpsJsK4v320HKb07sPTxPH2ysgu7dKF8zbp8I+y8Kc6MKAygU2vU2ZKWH0pKlej 9/vElQtUUseesx6gH++c =tD6K -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On 6 May 2015 at 22:49, J Martin Rushton <martinrushton56 at btinternet.com> wrote:> Don't dismiss Amanda it works well in a disk based setup. I don't > bother with the spooling disk though. I back up to virtual tape slots > on an external disk and rotate three external disks; two are in the > firesafe at work, one is on top of my PC.I can say the same about Bacula, just spooling to virtual tape slots on external disks work just fine here, it has worked more than a decade w/o a hitch and I'm not changing it for the sake of having a change any time soon (originally was backing to an external SCSI tape using DDS2 media virtually using the same config files but rotating multi-TB external disks is cheaper & easier).
Hello Alessandro, Wednesday, May 6, 2015, 9:21:10 PM, you wrote:> I'm new with backup ops and I'm searching a good system to accomplish this > work.Everybody has its favorite backup program, but why rely on only one system? I have to backup 8 servers and use three backup systems in parallel. -- BackupPC. Easy to use, nice user interface with graphical recovery of individual files. A pain to set up, basically, all errors in setup give the same error message. Reduces used space by hardlinks. Data structure is not transparent, so no recovery by browsing the storage directories. -- storeBackup. easy to use, easy to set up, but no nice user interface. Reduces used space nicely by using hardlinks. Used as second line of defence. Stores 1:1 copies of original filesystem, so easy browsing. -- tar. Used for disaster recovery. Produces large dumps. Only use it for system data, not for user data. Span all three systems on two independent backup machines. Put these backup servers into independent locations and sleep better :-) best regards --- Michael Schumacher
Am 07.05.2015 um 08:35 schrieb Michael Schumacher <michael.schumacher at pamas.de>:> > Everybody has its favorite backup program, but why rely on only one system? > > I have to backup 8 servers and use three backup systems in parallel. > > -- BackupPC. Easy to use, nice user interface with graphical recovery > of individual files. A pain to set up, basically, all errors in setup > give the same error message. Reduces used space by hardlinks. Data > structure is not transparent, so no recovery by browsing the storage > directories. > -- storeBackup. easy to use, easy to set up, but no nice user > interface. Reduces used space nicely by using hardlinks. Used as > second line of defence. Stores 1:1 copies of original filesystem, so > easy browsing. > -- tar. Used for disaster recovery. Produces large dumps. Only use it > for system data, not for user data.just another one (rsyns/hardlink based): rsnapshot its used here extensively and just works (storage browsable). -- LF
W dniu 06.05.2015 o 21:21, Alessandro Baggi pisze:> What do you mean about Backup PC? > Any experiences? > What solution do you use?BackupPC is good, howewer it's a pity you can't search for a file in GUI. But it works well, i'm backing up 32 hosts (servers, desktops). Can somebody tell me why it's not available for CentOS7? -- Over And Out MoonWolf
Il 07/05/2015 11:24, Marcin Trendota ha scritto:> W dniu 06.05.2015 o 21:21, Alessandro Baggi pisze: > >> What do you mean about Backup PC? >> Any experiences? >> What solution do you use? > > BackupPC is good, howewer it's a pity you can't search for a file in > GUI. But it works well, i'm backing up 32 hosts (servers, desktops). > > Can somebody tell me why it's not available for CentOS7? >I don't know why and don't know if in previous CentOS releases was included. BackupPC is available for C7 from nux repo, but this is an external repo.