Li, Liang Z
2016-Mar-10 07:44 UTC
[RFC qemu 0/4] A PV solution for live migration optimization
> > This patch set is the QEMU side implementation. > > > > The virtio-balloon is extended so that QEMU can get the free pages > > information from the guest through virtio. > > > > After getting the free pages information (a bitmap), QEMU can use it > > to filter out the guest's free pages in the ram bulk stage. This make > > the live migration process much more efficient. > > > > This RFC version doesn't take the post-copy and RDMA into > > consideration, maybe both of them can benefit from this PV solution by > > with some extra modifications. > > I like the idea, just have to prove (review) and test it a lot to ensure we don't > end up skipping pages that matter. > > However, there are a couple of points: > > In my opinion, the information that's exchanged between the guest and the > host should be exchanged over a virtio-serial channel rather than virtio- > balloon. First, there's nothing related to the balloon here. > It just happens to be memory info. Second, I would never enable balloon in > a guest that I want to be performance-sensitive. So even if you add this as > part of balloon, you'll find no one is using this solution. > > Secondly, I suggest virtio-serial, because it's meant exactly to exchange free- > flowing information between a host and a guest, and you don't need to > extend any part of the protocol for it (hence no changes necessary to the > spec). You can see how spice, vnc, etc., use virtio-serial to exchange data. > > > AmitHi Amit, Could provide more information on how to use virtio-serial to exchange data? Thread , Wiki or code are all OK. I have not find some useful information yet. Thanks Liang
Amit Shah
2016-Mar-10 07:57 UTC
[RFC qemu 0/4] A PV solution for live migration optimization
On (Thu) 10 Mar 2016 [07:44:19], Li, Liang Z wrote:> > Hi Amit, > > Could provide more information on how to use virtio-serial to exchange data? Thread , Wiki or code are all OK. > I have not find some useful information yet.See this commit in the Linux sources: 108fc82596e3b66b819df9d28c1ebbc9ab5de14c that adds a way to send guest trace data over to the host. I think that's the most relevant to your use-case. However, you'll have to add an in-kernel user of virtio-serial (like the virtio-console code -- the code that deals with tty and hvc currently). There's no other non-tty user right now, and this is the right kind of use-case to add one for! For many other (userspace) use-cases, see the qemu-guest-agent in the qemu sources. The API is documented in the wiki: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Virtio-serial_API and the feature pages have some information that may help as well: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/VirtioSerial There are some links in here too: http://log.amitshah.net/2010/09/communication-between-guests-and-hosts/ Hope this helps. Amit
Li, Liang Z
2016-Mar-10 08:36 UTC
[RFC qemu 0/4] A PV solution for live migration optimization
> > Could provide more information on how to use virtio-serial to exchange > data? Thread , Wiki or code are all OK. > > I have not find some useful information yet. > > See this commit in the Linux sources: > > 108fc82596e3b66b819df9d28c1ebbc9ab5de14c > > that adds a way to send guest trace data over to the host. I think that's the > most relevant to your use-case. However, you'll have to add an in-kernel > user of virtio-serial (like the virtio-console code > -- the code that deals with tty and hvc currently). There's no other non-tty > user right now, and this is the right kind of use-case to add one for! > > For many other (userspace) use-cases, see the qemu-guest-agent in the > qemu sources. > > The API is documented in the wiki: > > http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Virtio-serial_API > > and the feature pages have some information that may help as well: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/VirtioSerial > > There are some links in here too: > > http://log.amitshah.net/2010/09/communication-between-guests-and- > hosts/ > > Hope this helps. > > > AmitThanks a lot !! Liang
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