Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-Apr-20 17:36 UTC
[PATCH 00/18] virtio-blk: Support "VIRTIO_CONFIG_S_NEEDS_RESET"
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 03:59:15PM +0800, Fam Zheng wrote:> Currently, virtio code chooses to kill QEMU if the guest passes any invalid > data with vring. > That has drawbacks such as losing unsaved data (e.g. when > guest user is writing a very long email), or possible denial of service in > a nested vm use case where virtio device is passed through. > > virtio-1 has introduced a new status bit "NEEDS RESET" which could be used to > improve this by communicating the error state between virtio devices and > drivers. The device notifies guest upon setting the bit, then the guest driver > should detect this bit and report to userspace, or recover the device by > resetting it.Unfortunately, virtio 1 spec does not have a conformance statement that requires driver to recover. We merely have a non-normative looking text: Note: For example, the driver can?t assume requests in flight will be completed if DEVICE_NEEDS_RESET is set, nor can it assume that they have not been completed. A good implementation will try to recover by issuing a reset. Implementing this reset for all devices in a race-free manner might also be far from trivial. I think we'd need a feature bit for this. OTOH as long as we make this a new feature, would an ability to reset a single VQ be a better match for what you are trying to achieve?> This series makes necessary changes in virtio core code, based on which > virtio-blk is converted. Other devices now keep the existing behavior by > passing in "error_abort". They will be converted in following series. The Linux > driver part will also be worked on. > > One concern with this behavior change is that it's now harder to notice the > actual driver bug that caused the error, as the guest continues to run. To > address that, we could probably add a new error action option to virtio > devices, similar to the "read/write werror" in block layer, so the vm could be > paused and the management will get an event in QMP like pvpanic. This work can > be done on top.At the architectural level, that's only one concern. Others would be - workloads such as openstack handle guest crash better than a guest that's e.g. slow because of a memory leak - it's easier for guests to probe host for security issues if guest isn't killed - guest can flood host log with guest-triggered errors At the implementation level, there's one big issue you seem to have missed: DMA to invalid memory addresses causes a crash in memory core. I'm not sure whether it makes sense to recover from virtio core bugs when we can't recover from device bugs.> > > Fam Zheng (18): > virtio: Return error from virtqueue_map_sg > virtio: Return error from virtqueue_num_heads > virtio: Return error from virtqueue_get_head > virtio: Return error from virtqueue_next_desc > virtio: Return error from virtqueue_get_avail_bytes > virtio: Return error from virtqueue_pop > virtio: Return error from virtqueue_avail_bytes > virtio: Return error from virtio_add_queue > virtio: Return error from virtio_del_queue > virtio: Add macro for VIRTIO_CONFIG_S_NEEDS_RESET > virtio: Add "needs_reset" flag to virtio device > virtio: Return -EINVAL if the vdev needs reset in virtqueue_pop > virtio-blk: Graceful error handling of virtqueue_pop > qtest: Add "QTEST_FILTER" to filter test cases > qtest: virtio-blk: Extract "setup" for future reuse > libqos: Add qvirtio_needs_reset > qtest: Add test case for "needs reset" of virtio-blk > qtest: virtio-blk: Suppress virtio error messages in "make check" > > hw/9pfs/virtio-9p-device.c | 2 +- > hw/9pfs/virtio-9p.c | 2 +- > hw/block/dataplane/virtio-blk.c | 9 +- > hw/block/virtio-blk.c | 62 +++++-- > hw/char/virtio-serial-bus.c | 30 ++-- > hw/net/virtio-net.c | 36 +++-- > hw/scsi/virtio-scsi.c | 8 +- > hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c | 13 +- > hw/virtio/virtio-rng.c | 6 +- > hw/virtio/virtio.c | 214 ++++++++++++++++++------- > include/hw/virtio/virtio-blk.h | 3 +- > include/hw/virtio/virtio.h | 17 +- > include/standard-headers/linux/virtio_config.h | 2 + > tests/Makefile | 6 +- > tests/libqos/virtio.c | 5 + > tests/libqos/virtio.h | 2 + > tests/virtio-blk-test.c | 196 ++++++++++++++++++++-- > 17 files changed, 482 insertions(+), 131 deletions(-) > > -- > 1.9.3 >
Paolo Bonzini
2015-Apr-20 19:10 UTC
[PATCH 00/18] virtio-blk: Support "VIRTIO_CONFIG_S_NEEDS_RESET"
On 20/04/2015 19:36, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:> At the implementation level, there's one big issue you seem to have > missed: DMA to invalid memory addresses causes a crash in memory core. > I'm not sure whether it makes sense to recover from virtio core bugs > when we can't recover from device bugs.What do you mean exactly? DMA to invalid memory addresses causes address_space_map to return a "short read". Paolo
Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-Apr-20 20:34 UTC
[PATCH 00/18] virtio-blk: Support "VIRTIO_CONFIG_S_NEEDS_RESET"
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 09:10:02PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:> > > On 20/04/2015 19:36, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > At the implementation level, there's one big issue you seem to have > > missed: DMA to invalid memory addresses causes a crash in memory core. > > I'm not sure whether it makes sense to recover from virtio core bugs > > when we can't recover from device bugs. > > What do you mean exactly? DMA to invalid memory addresses causes > address_space_map to return a "short read". > > PaoloI mean, first of all, a bunch of virtio_XXX_phys calls. These eventually call qemu_get_ram_ptr, which internally calls qemu_get_ram_block and ramblock_ptr. Both abort on errors. -- MST
Fam Zheng
2015-Apr-21 02:37 UTC
[Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/18] virtio-blk: Support "VIRTIO_CONFIG_S_NEEDS_RESET"
On Mon, 04/20 19:36, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 03:59:15PM +0800, Fam Zheng wrote: > > Currently, virtio code chooses to kill QEMU if the guest passes any invalid > > data with vring. > > That has drawbacks such as losing unsaved data (e.g. when > > guest user is writing a very long email), or possible denial of service in > > a nested vm use case where virtio device is passed through. > > > > virtio-1 has introduced a new status bit "NEEDS RESET" which could be used to > > improve this by communicating the error state between virtio devices and > > drivers. The device notifies guest upon setting the bit, then the guest driver > > should detect this bit and report to userspace, or recover the device by > > resetting it. > > Unfortunately, virtio 1 spec does not have a conformance statement > that requires driver to recover. We merely have a non-normative looking > text: > Note: For example, the driver can?t assume requests in flight > will be completed if DEVICE_NEEDS_RESET is set, nor can it assume that > they have not been completed. A good implementation will try to recover > by issuing a reset. > > Implementing this reset for all devices in a race-free manner might also > be far from trivial. I think we'd need a feature bit for this. > OTOH as long as we make this a new feature, would an ability to > reset a single VQ be a better match for what you are trying to > achieve?I think that is too complicated as a recovery measure, a device level resetting will be better to get to a deterministic state, at least.> > > This series makes necessary changes in virtio core code, based on which > > virtio-blk is converted. Other devices now keep the existing behavior by > > passing in "error_abort". They will be converted in following series. The Linux > > driver part will also be worked on. > > > > One concern with this behavior change is that it's now harder to notice the > > actual driver bug that caused the error, as the guest continues to run. To > > address that, we could probably add a new error action option to virtio > > devices, similar to the "read/write werror" in block layer, so the vm could be > > paused and the management will get an event in QMP like pvpanic. This work can > > be done on top. > > At the architectural level, that's only one concern. Others would be > - workloads such as openstack handle guest crash better than > a guest that's e.g. slow because of a memory leakWhat memory leak are you referring to?> - it's easier for guests to probe host for security issues > if guest isn't killed > - guest can flood host log with guest-triggered errorsWe can still abort() if guest is triggering error too quickly. Fam
Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-Apr-21 05:22 UTC
[Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/18] virtio-blk: Support "VIRTIO_CONFIG_S_NEEDS_RESET"
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:37:00AM +0800, Fam Zheng wrote:> On Mon, 04/20 19:36, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 03:59:15PM +0800, Fam Zheng wrote: > > > Currently, virtio code chooses to kill QEMU if the guest passes any invalid > > > data with vring. > > > That has drawbacks such as losing unsaved data (e.g. when > > > guest user is writing a very long email), or possible denial of service in > > > a nested vm use case where virtio device is passed through. > > > > > > virtio-1 has introduced a new status bit "NEEDS RESET" which could be used to > > > improve this by communicating the error state between virtio devices and > > > drivers. The device notifies guest upon setting the bit, then the guest driver > > > should detect this bit and report to userspace, or recover the device by > > > resetting it. > > > > Unfortunately, virtio 1 spec does not have a conformance statement > > that requires driver to recover. We merely have a non-normative looking > > text: > > Note: For example, the driver can?t assume requests in flight > > will be completed if DEVICE_NEEDS_RESET is set, nor can it assume that > > they have not been completed. A good implementation will try to recover > > by issuing a reset. > > > > Implementing this reset for all devices in a race-free manner might also > > be far from trivial. I think we'd need a feature bit for this. > > OTOH as long as we make this a new feature, would an ability to > > reset a single VQ be a better match for what you are trying to > > achieve? > > I think that is too complicated as a recovery measure, a device level resetting > will be better to get to a deterministic state, at least.Question would be, how hard is it to stop host from using all queues, retrieve all host OS state and re-program it into the device. If we need to shadow all OS state within the driver, then that's a lot of not well tested code with a possibility of introducing more bugs.> > > > > This series makes necessary changes in virtio core code, based on which > > > virtio-blk is converted. Other devices now keep the existing behavior by > > > passing in "error_abort". They will be converted in following series. The Linux > > > driver part will also be worked on. > > > > > > One concern with this behavior change is that it's now harder to notice the > > > actual driver bug that caused the error, as the guest continues to run. To > > > address that, we could probably add a new error action option to virtio > > > devices, similar to the "read/write werror" in block layer, so the vm could be > > > paused and the management will get an event in QMP like pvpanic. This work can > > > be done on top. > > > > At the architectural level, that's only one concern. Others would be > > - workloads such as openstack handle guest crash better than > > a guest that's e.g. slow because of a memory leak > > What memory leak are you referring to?That was just an example. If host detects a malformed ring, it will crash. But often it doesn't, result is buffers not being used, so guest can't free them up.> > - it's easier for guests to probe host for security issues > > if guest isn't killed > > - guest can flood host log with guest-triggered errors > > We can still abort() if guest is triggering error too quickly. > > FamAbsolutely, and if it looked like I'm against error detection and recovery, this was not my intent. I am merely saying we can't apply this patchset as is, deferring addressing the issues to patches on top. But I have an idea: refactor the code to use error_abort. This way we can apply the patchset without making functional changes, and you can make progress to complete this, on top. -- MST
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