Paul Colton wrote:> Sorry to email all of you, but I am trying to get in touch with someone > (Sam?) about getting Prototype documentation into the source tree.While I can''t fault your logic of scraping the Changelog for e-mail addresses of people who have had patches submitted "recently," I doubt that you''ll have any luck getting a hold of Sam through us. He isn''t active in the community (rails-spinoffs) and I haven''t seen any major SVN activity for months so he''s obviously not doing much with the bug reports. He''s largely absent and no one''s handing out commit rights to spinoffs/prototype (or maybe I''m just flirting with the wrong people, heh).> We¹ve build an IDE for JS development (Aptana, slowly going public at > www.aptana.com). We¹ve defined a documentation format, ScriptDoc (based on > JSDoc), that allows us to either inline the docs or keep them in an external > file (one or more). These docs then provide rich code assist during > development. We¹ve already documented all of prototype and would love to get > it in.Your best bet is to submit a patch via http://dev.rubyonrails.org/ for Prototype and hope that some day it catches his attention. I''ll be the first to admit though that it''s not a very effective approach. If you want more exposure for your project, publish HTML versions on line and invite rails-spinoffs to take a look. There''s a bunch of sharp people on that list. Todd Ross P.S. I''ve CC''d rails-spinoffs.
Sorry for the reply-all, anyone not interested in this thread (aside from the rails-spinoffs list people), please let us know and we will exclude you from further responses (at least I will, heh) As for the IDE, just downloaded the Windows version, all I have to say is... (nothing to say, speechless). It''s breathtaking, and for all intents and purposes (not having put it to any real tests yet, but just in reading the docs and toying with the interface)... it''s just about perfect. A couple of things that may exist, but if not, would make it perfect are... cross-browser debugging services (IE, FF, etc..), like breakpoints, step-through, watches, the whole 9 yards (I get all this via MS VWD or VS.NET script debugger, but I''m like the only .NET guy on this entire list)... and support for defining or dropping in additional abstraction/widgeting libraries besides mochikit, like prototype or dojo or jquery (at least I think that''s what mochikit is synonymous with, haven''t had a chance yet to play with it). Now, I''ll play with it some more and report back. But if I can do all that on top of the niceties you''ve already piled in there, this would easily become my companies standard js IDE. Very nice job. On 7/18/06, Todd Ross <rails-spinoffs-25kFIyuv2iRiLUuM0BA3LQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > Paul Colton wrote: > > Sorry to email all of you, but I am trying to get in touch with someone > > (Sam?) about getting Prototype documentation into the source tree. > > While I can''t fault your logic of scraping the Changelog for e-mail > addresses of people who have had patches submitted "recently," I doubt > that you''ll have any luck getting a hold of Sam through us. He isn''t > active in the community (rails-spinoffs) and I haven''t seen any major > SVN activity for months so he''s obviously not doing much with the bug > reports. He''s largely absent and no one''s handing out commit rights to > spinoffs/prototype (or maybe I''m just flirting with the wrong people, > heh). > > > We¹ve build an IDE for JS development (Aptana, slowly going public at > > www.aptana.com). We¹ve defined a documentation format, ScriptDoc (based > on > > JSDoc), that allows us to either inline the docs or keep them in an > external > > file (one or more). These docs then provide rich code assist during > > development. We¹ve already documented all of prototype and would love to > get > > it in. > > Your best bet is to submit a patch via http://dev.rubyonrails.org/ for > Prototype and hope that some day it catches his attention. I''ll be the > first to admit though that it''s not a very effective approach. > > If you want more exposure for your project, publish HTML versions on > line and invite rails-spinoffs to take a look. There''s a bunch of sharp > people on that list. > > Todd Ross > > P.S. I''ve CC''d rails-spinoffs. > _______________________________________________ > Rails-spinoffs mailing list > Rails-spinoffs-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs >_______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list Rails-spinoffs-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs
Ok, just a quick follow up. Within the first few seconds of opening up the interface for real, I found out you can drop in other libraries very easily (the announcement that the IDE now supports mochikit, which was on the welcome screen, was mis-leading me to believe that was the only one supported at the moment, but I can see you''ve made it very easy to add any library) On 7/19/06, Ryan Gahl <ryan.gahl-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > Sorry for the reply-all, anyone not interested in this thread (aside from > the rails-spinoffs list people), please let us know and we will exclude you > from further responses (at least I will, heh) > > As for the IDE, just downloaded the Windows version, all I have to say > is... (nothing to say, speechless). > > It''s breathtaking, and for all intents and purposes (not having put it to > any real tests yet, but just in reading the docs and toying with the > interface)... it''s just about perfect. > > A couple of things that may exist, but if not, would make it perfect > are... cross-browser debugging services (IE, FF, etc..), like breakpoints, > step-through, watches, the whole 9 yards (I get all this via MS VWD or > VS.NET script debugger, but I''m like the only .NET guy on this entire > list)... and support for defining or dropping in additional > abstraction/widgeting libraries besides mochikit, like prototype or dojo or > jquery (at least I think that''s what mochikit is synonymous with, haven''t > had a chance yet to play with it). > > Now, I''ll play with it some more and report back. But if I can do all that > on top of the niceties you''ve already piled in there, this would easily > become my companies standard js IDE. > > Very nice job. > > > > On 7/18/06, Todd Ross <rails-spinoffs-25kFIyuv2iRiLUuM0BA3LQ@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > Paul Colton wrote: > > > Sorry to email all of you, but I am trying to get in touch with > > someone > > > (Sam?) about getting Prototype documentation into the source tree. > > > > While I can''t fault your logic of scraping the Changelog for e-mail > > addresses of people who have had patches submitted "recently," I doubt > > that you''ll have any luck getting a hold of Sam through us. He isn''t > > active in the community (rails-spinoffs) and I haven''t seen any major > > SVN activity for months so he''s obviously not doing much with the bug > > reports. He''s largely absent and no one''s handing out commit rights to > > spinoffs/prototype (or maybe I''m just flirting with the wrong people, > > heh). > > > > > We¹ve build an IDE for JS development (Aptana, slowly going public at > > > www.aptana.com). We¹ve defined a documentation format, ScriptDoc > > (based on > > > JSDoc), that allows us to either inline the docs or keep them in an > > external > > > file (one or more). These docs then provide rich code assist during > > > development. We¹ve already documented all of prototype and would love > > to get > > > it in. > > > > Your best bet is to submit a patch via http://dev.rubyonrails.org/ for > > Prototype and hope that some day it catches his attention. I''ll be the > > first to admit though that it''s not a very effective approach. > > > > If you want more exposure for your project, publish HTML versions on > > line and invite rails-spinoffs to take a look. There''s a bunch of sharp > > people on that list. > > > > Todd Ross > > > > P.S. I''ve CC''d rails-spinoffs. > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails-spinoffs mailing list > > Rails-spinoffs-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs > > > >_______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list Rails-spinoffs-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs
> I doubt > that you''ll have any luck getting a hold of Sam through us. He isn''t > active in the community (rails-spinoffs) and I haven''t seen any major > SVN activity for months so he''s obviously not doing much with the bug > reports. He''s largely absent and no one''s handing out commit rights to > spinoffs/prototype.What is the story with Sam? I don''t remember seeing a post from him in the last year. Sometimes I wonder if his general absence partly due to the JavaScript community''s fervent dislike of his Prototype.js library.