I am running RH 7.0 (kernel 2.2.16) as a router/masq machine with 5 windows machines connected internally. I have 2 dsl lines as internet connections, - the first is 384k up and down. The second is 1.5mbit down and only 90kb up. Is there a way to send all my upload / requests out the 384 line, but have it return on the download side of the 1.5mb line? That would give me the best of both worlds currently. Since I'm using masq., does that complicate things? Would I be better off using Kernel 2.4 with it's advanced features? Thanks Dave M.
On Fri, 6 Jul 2001, Dave Miller wrote:> I am running RH 7.0 (kernel 2.2.16) as a router/masq machine with 5 windows > machines connected internally. I have 2 dsl lines as internet > connections, - the first is 384k up and down. The second is 1.5mbit down > and only 90kb up. Is there a way to send all my upload / requests out > the 384 line, but have it return on the download side of the 1.5mb line?If both lines serve the same network, yes. However, as the dsl lines are most probably not to IP addresses in the same network, it is quite unlikely that you will succeed. The problem is not whether or not you can configure your system to do so; the problem is getting the rest of the world to recognize that your return packets should be routed back to provider 2 even though your packets came from provider 1.> That would give me the best of both worlds currently. > Since I''m using masq., does that complicate things? > Would I be better off using Kernel 2.4 with it''s advanced features?For routing that is a non-issue. All advanced routing stuff was in 2.2.17 already, but the traffic control stuff didn''t mature until 2.4. Doei, Arthur. -- /\ / | arthurvl@sci.kun.nl | Work like you don''t need the money /__\ / | A friend is someone with whom | Love like you have never been hurt / \/__ | you can dare to be yourself | Dance like there''s nobody watching
Actually, both lines must use PPPOE - non static ip's (thanks Verizon and Bellatlantic), I had the Bellatlantic account before the merger, and now have the second through Verizon. Doing a double pppoe is no big deal thanks to Roaring Penguin's software using the GUI that is available. If my understanding is correct - if I could change the source address of all the packets going out through the 384 line to read what the pppoe address is for the 1.5mb line - should that not work? The rest of the world would see the source address as that of the 1.5 line instead of the 384 line. I just don't know how to do that. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur van Leeuwen" <arthurvl@sci.kun.nl> To: "Dave Miller" <lartc@millerscomp.com> Cc: <lartc@mailman.ds9a.nl> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [LARTC] Routing> On Fri, 6 Jul 2001, Dave Miller wrote: > > > I am running RH 7.0 (kernel 2.2.16) as a router/masq machine with 5 windows > > machines connected internally. I have 2 dsl lines as internet > > connections, - the first is 384k up and down. The second is 1.5mbit down > > and only 90kb up. Is there a way to send all my upload / requests out > > the 384 line, but have it return on the download side of the 1.5mb line? > > If both lines serve the same network, yes. However, as the dsl lines are > most probably not to IP addresses in the same network, it is quite unlikely > that you will succeed. The problem is not whether or not you can configure > your system to do so; the problem is getting the rest of the world to > recognize that your return packets should be routed back to provider 2 > even though your packets came from provider 1. > > > That would give me the best of both worlds currently. > > Since I'm using masq., does that complicate things? > > Would I be better off using Kernel 2.4 with it's advanced features? > > For routing that is a non-issue. All advanced routing stuff was in 2.2.17 > already, but the traffic control stuff didn't mature until 2.4. > > Doei, Arthur. > > -- > /\ / | arthurvl@sci.kun.nl | Work like you don't need the money > /__\ / | A friend is someone with whom | Love like you have never been hurt > / \/__ | you can dare to be yourself | Dance like there's nobody watching > > > _______________________________________________ > LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl > http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://ds9a.nl/2.4Routing/
I think there is a simple solution to all this. This is what we do in DVB recieve-only service. What u have to do is to masquerade all ur outgoing traffic to some ip address of ur 1.5 mb link and route it through 384kbps link. As the ip address which is sent out is of that of 1.5 mb link ..it will return back through ur 1.5 mb link automatically . Only restriction is that u shld hv real ips for both links , what i mean by that is ..ur outgoing traffic shld not get masquerade agn ..as then the traffic will come back thgh the same link. Deepak Singhal ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Miller To: LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [LARTC] Routing Actually, both lines must use PPPOE - non static ip''s (thanks Verizon and Bellatlantic), I had the Bellatlantic account before the merger, and now have the second through Verizon. Doing a double pppoe is no big deal thanks to Roaring Penguin''s software using the GUI that is available. If my understanding is correct - if I could change the source address of all the packets going out through the 384 line to read what the pppoe address is for the 1.5mb line - should that not work? The rest of the world would see the source address as that of the 1.5 line instead of the 384 line. I just don''t know how to do that. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur van Leeuwen" <arthurvl@sci.kun.nl> To: "Dave Miller" <lartc@millerscomp.com> Cc: <lartc@mailman.ds9a.nl> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [LARTC] Routing > On Fri, 6 Jul 2001, Dave Miller wrote: > > > I am running RH 7.0 (kernel 2.2.16) as a router/masq machine with 5 windows > > machines connected internally. I have 2 dsl lines as internet > > connections, - the first is 384k up and down. The second is 1.5mbit down > > and only 90kb up. Is there a way to send all my upload / requests out > > the 384 line, but have it return on the download side of the 1.5mb line? > > If both lines serve the same network, yes. However, as the dsl lines are > most probably not to IP addresses in the same network, it is quite unlikely > that you will succeed. The problem is not whether or not you can configure > your system to do so; the problem is getting the rest of the world to > recognize that your return packets should be routed back to provider 2 > even though your packets came from provider 1. > > > That would give me the best of both worlds currently. > > Since I''m using masq., does that complicate things? > > Would I be better off using Kernel 2.4 with it''s advanced features? > > For routing that is a non-issue. All advanced routing stuff was in 2.2.17 > already, but the traffic control stuff didn''t mature until 2.4. > > Doei, Arthur. > > -- > /\ / | arthurvl@sci.kun.nl | Work like you don''t need the money > /__\ / | A friend is someone with whom | Love like you have never been hurt > / \/__ | you can dare to be yourself | Dance like there''s nobody watching > > > _______________________________________________ > LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl > http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://ds9a.nl/2.4Routing/
On Fri, 6 Jul 2001, Dave Miller wrote:> Actually, both lines must use PPPOE - non static ip''s (thanks Verizon and > Bellatlantic), I had the Bellatlantic account before the merger, and now > have the second through Verizon. Doing a double pppoe is no big deal thanks > to Roaring Penguin''s software using the GUI that is available. If my > understanding is correct - if I could change the source address of all the > packets going out through the 384 line to read what the pppoe address is for > the 1.5mb line - should that not work? The rest of the world would see the > source address as that of the 1.5 line instead of the 384 line. I just > don''t know how to do that.Well, sorry, no. The upstream network may very well filter what it considers ''foreign'' source addresses from its net, thereby effectively blocking all your traffic. You can *try*, ofcourse, but I wouldn''t be surprised if you cut off all your connectivity doing so. If you want to try: the ''src'' hints for routes are followed, independent of the interface you route out of. Doei, Arthur. -- /\ / | arthurvl@sci.kun.nl | Work like you don''t need the money /__\ / | A friend is someone with whom | Love like you have never been hurt / \/__ | you can dare to be yourself | Dance like there''s nobody watching
I''m not convinced yet that it won''t work. Bellatlatic and Verizon are actually on the same network. The ip addresses that we get through the two accounts overlap sometimes. They will let us send email from a Verizon account through a Bellatlantic connection and vise-versa. Do you have an web address for the "src" hints to help me along. If it doesn''t work -we so be it. However, I still want to give it a try. Thanks for all the help so far. Dave> > On Fri, 6 Jul 2001, Dave Miller wrote: > > > Actually, both lines must use PPPOE - non static ip''s (thanks Verizonand> > Bellatlantic), I had the Bellatlantic account before the merger, and now > > have the second through Verizon. Doing a double pppoe is no big dealthanks> > to Roaring Penguin''s software using the GUI that is available. If my > > understanding is correct - if I could change the source address of allthe> > packets going out through the 384 line to read what the pppoe address isfor> > the 1.5mb line - should that not work? The rest of the world would seethe> > source address as that of the 1.5 line instead of the 384 line. I just > > don''t know how to do that. > > Well, sorry, no. The upstream network may very well filter what itconsiders> ''foreign'' source addresses from its net, thereby effectively blocking all > your traffic. You can *try*, ofcourse, but I wouldn''t be surprised if you > cut off all your connectivity doing so. > > If you want to try: the ''src'' hints for routes are followed, independentof> the interface you route out of. > > Doei, Arthur. > > -- > /\ / | arthurvl@sci.kun.nl | Work like you don''t need themoney> /__\ / | A friend is someone with whom | Love like you have never beenhurt> / \/__ | you can dare to be yourself | Dance like there''s nobodywatching> > > _______________________________________________ > LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl > http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO:http://ds9a.nl/2.4Routing/
On Sat, 7 Jul 2001, Dave Miller wrote:> I''m not convinced yet that it won''t work. Bellatlatic and Verizon are > actually on the same network. The ip addresses that we get through the two > accounts overlap sometimes. They will let us send email from a Verizon > account through a Bellatlantic connection and vise-versa. Do you have an > web address for the "src" hints to help me along. If it doesn''t work -we so > be it. However, I still want to give it a try.Hey, you might very well indeed be lucky. Let me get home first and have a good night''s rest and I''ll send you a somewhat complete setup script tomorrow. Doei, Arthur. (Who thinks co-location facilities are too darn cold) -- /\ / | arthurvl@sci.kun.nl | Work like you don''t need the money /__\ / | A friend is someone with whom | Love like you have never been hurt / \/__ | you can dare to be yourself | Dance like there''s nobody watching