does anyone know if there is any up to date documentation for the rails 3 initialization process? Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en.
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 7:21 AM, gerberdata <gerbdla@gmail.com> wrote: does anyone know if there is any up to date documentation for the> rails 3 initialization process? >There''s a start in initialization.textile, but needs to be updated and finished. This is an important topic. In addition to being interesting in itself, it helps people understand how are all the pieces connected. If someone liked to take over the initialization guide please do! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en.
I know Ryan Bigg did a lot of work on that for his Rails 3 in Action book. I don''t know if his notes are available outside the book, though -Nicolas On 25/06/2011, at 05:27, Xavier Noria <fxn@hashref.com> wrote:> On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 7:21 AM, gerberdata <gerbdla@gmail.com> wrote: > > does anyone know if there is any up to date documentation for the > rails 3 initialization process? > > There''s a start in initialization.textile, but needs to be updated and finished. > > This is an important topic. In addition to being interesting in itself, it helps people understand how are all the pieces connected. If someone liked to take over the initialization guide please do! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en.
I begun working on the initialization guide back at the beginning of 2010, but I stopped as I picked up a new full-time job and Rails was undergoing a lot of changes at the time in preparation for the 3.0 release and so I was hesitant to continue on my work until Rails "stabilized" in that respect. I begun re-writing it from scratch in November-December last year and left it in its unfinished state with the intention of completing it after I''m done with the book. The problem with it however is that there''s currently *no way* to make sure that the content is accurate. Therefore, rather than working on this guide *directly*, I would rather work on some way of ensuring that the guides for Rails (not just this one) are actually technically correct by being able to generate a type of "documentation test suite" for them. Right now, I don''t have the time to do this. But I think this would be a great place to start and what better guide to use (for the sheer number of examples it has) than the initialization guide? On Saturday, 25 June 2011 at 10:16 PM, Nicolas Sanguinetti wrote:> I know Ryan Bigg did a lot of work on that for his Rails 3 in Action book. I don''t know if his notes are available outside the book, though > > -Nicolas > > > > On 25/06/2011, at 05:27, Xavier Noria <fxn@hashref.com (mailto:fxn@hashref.com)> wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 7:21 AM, gerberdata <gerbdla@gmail.com (mailto:gerbdla@gmail.com)> wrote: > > > > > does anyone know if there is any up to date documentation for the > > > rails 3 initialization process? > > > > There''s a start in initialization.textile, but needs to be updated and finished. > > > > This is an important topic. In addition to being interesting in itself, it helps people understand how are all the pieces connected. If someone liked to take over the initialization guide please do! > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com (mailto:rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com). > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com (mailto:rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com (mailto:rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com). > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com (mailto:rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en.
Neeraj Singh has a great video (~25min) on how the Rails boot process works, which he just made in June (I believe using Rails 3.1rc). -Steve @jangosteve On Jun 25, 2011, at 8:20 AM, Ryan Bigg wrote:> I begun working on the initialization guide back at the beginning of > 2010, but I stopped as I picked up a new full-time job and Rails was > undergoing a lot of changes at the time in preparation for the 3.0 > release and so I was hesitant to continue on my work until Rails > "stabilized" in that respect. I begun re-writing it from scratch in > November-December last year and left it in its unfinished state with > the intention of completing it after I''m done with the book. > > The problem with it however is that there''s currently *no way* to > make sure that the content is accurate. Therefore, rather than > working on this guide *directly*, I would rather work on some way of > ensuring that the guides for Rails (not just this one) are actually > technically correct by being able to generate a type of > "documentation test suite" for them. > > Right now, I don''t have the time to do this. But I think this would > be a great place to start and what better guide to use (for the > sheer number of examples it has) than the initialization guide? > On Saturday, 25 June 2011 at 10:16 PM, Nicolas Sanguinetti wrote: > >> I know Ryan Bigg did a lot of work on that for his Rails 3 in >> Action book. I don''t know if his notes are available outside the >> book, though >> >> -Nicolas >> >> >> >> On 25/06/2011, at 05:27, Xavier Noria <fxn@hashref.com> wrote: >> >>> On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 7:21 AM, gerberdata <gerbdla@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> does anyone know if there is any up to date documentation for the >>>> rails 3 initialization process? >>> >>> There''s a start in initialization.textile, but needs to be updated >>> and finished. >>> >>> This is an important topic. In addition to being interesting in >>> itself, it helps people understand how are all the pieces >>> connected. If someone liked to take over the initialization guide >>> please do! >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com >>> . >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >>> . >>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en >>> . >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >> . >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en >> . > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails- > core@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en > .-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en.
so just to be straight, this is the page I am referring to http://guides.rubyonrails.org/initialization.html where the initialization process is explained correct? I am seeing that there is a docrails project that it says that we should update. Is this still correct? Maybe I can coordinate with someone and start working on it together when time permits but I will need someone to be the lead and provide directions for starting this. Let me know. I also have a full time rails project but I think it would be good to get the initialization documentation up to date. My personal email is gerbdla@gmail.com feel free to contact me. I can also provide my skype id if you email me. On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 5:20 AM, Ryan Bigg <radarlistener@gmail.com> wrote:> I begun working on the initialization guide back at the beginning of > 2010, but I stopped as I picked up a new full-time job and Rails was > undergoing a lot of changes at the time in preparation for the 3.0 release > and so I was hesitant to continue on my work until Rails "stabilized" in > that respect. I begun re-writing it from scratch in November-December last > year and left it in its unfinished state with the intention of completing it > after I''m done with the book. > > The problem with it however is that there''s currently *no way* to make sure > that the content is accurate. Therefore, rather than working on this guide > *directly*, I would rather work on some way of ensuring that the guides for > Rails (not just this one) are actually technically correct by being able to > generate a type of "documentation test suite" for them. > > Right now, I don''t have the time to do this. But I think this would be a > great place to start and what better guide to use (for the sheer number of > examples it has) than the initialization guide? > > On Saturday, 25 June 2011 at 10:16 PM, Nicolas Sanguinetti wrote: > > I know Ryan Bigg did a lot of work on that for his Rails 3 in Action book. > I don''t know if his notes are available outside the book, though > > -Nicolas > > > > On 25/06/2011, at 05:27, Xavier Noria <fxn@hashref.com> wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 7:21 AM, gerberdata < <gerbdla@gmail.com> > gerbdla@gmail.com> wrote: > > does anyone know if there is any up to date documentation for the > rails 3 initialization process? > > > There''s a start in initialization.textile, but needs to be updated and > finished. > > This is an important topic. In addition to being interesting in itself, it > helps people understand how are all the pieces connected. If someone liked > to take over the initialization guide please do! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en.
Hi can you provide link to this video? On Jun 25, 8:41 am, Steve Schwartz <st...@alfajango.com> wrote:> Neeraj Singh has a great video (~25min) on how the Rails boot process > works, which he just made in June (I believe using Rails 3.1rc). > > -Steve > @jangosteve > > On Jun 25, 2011, at 8:20 AM, Ryan Bigg wrote: > > > > > I begun working on the initialization guide back at the beginning of > > 2010, but I stopped as I picked up a new full-time job and Rails was > > undergoing a lot of changes at the time in preparation for the 3.0 > > release and so I was hesitant to continue on my work until Rails > > "stabilized" in that respect. I begun re-writing it from scratch in > > November-December last year and left it in its unfinished state with > > the intention of completing it after I''m done with the book. > > > The problem with it however is that there''s currently *no way* to > > make sure that the content is accurate. Therefore, rather than > > working on this guide *directly*, I would rather work on some way of > > ensuring that the guides for Rails (not just this one) are actually > > technically correct by being able to generate a type of > > "documentation test suite" for them. > > > Right now, I don''t have the time to do this. But I think this would > > be a great place to start and what better guide to use (for the > > sheer number of examples it has) than the initialization guide? > > On Saturday, 25 June 2011 at 10:16 PM, Nicolas Sanguinetti wrote: > > >> I know Ryan Bigg did a lot of work on that for his Rails 3 in > >> Action book. I don''t know if his notes are available outside the > >> book, though > > >> -Nicolas > > >> On 25/06/2011, at 05:27, Xavier Noria <f...@hashref.com> wrote: > > >>> On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 7:21 AM, gerberdata <gerb...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > > >>>> does anyone know if there is any up to date documentation for the > >>>> rails 3 initialization process? > > >>> There''s a start in initialization.textile, but needs to be updated > >>> and finished. > > >>> This is an important topic. In addition to being interesting in > >>> itself, it helps people understand how are all the pieces > >>> connected. If someone liked to take over the initialization guide > >>> please do! > > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>> Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com > >>> . > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > >>> . > >>> For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en > >>> . > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com > >> . > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > >> . > >> For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en > >> . > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails- > > core@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > > . > > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en > > .-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en.
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 7:15 PM, gerberdata <gerbdla@gmail.com> wrote:> Hi can you provide link to this video? >http://www.bigbinary.com/videos/2-how-rails-boots -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en.