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Alex MacCaw

2007-Nov-06 07:42 UTC

new Element doesn''t work in Safari with Prototype 1.6.0_rc1

I''m encountering quite a weird problem with Safari 2.0.4 -
''new
Element'' doesn''t work at all, *unless* you change the file
extension
of the document you''re loading from xhtml to html.
Try rendering the code below using the different extensions:
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/
TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
	<head>
		<script type="text/javascript"
src="http://www.prototypejs.org/
assets/2007/10/16/prototype.js"></script>
		<script type="text/javascript">
		// <![CDATA[
			function loadme() {
				var newelem = new Element(''div'');
				newelem.update("It worked.");
				$(document.body).insert(newelem)
			}
			Element.observe(window, ''load'', loadme)
		// ]]>
		</script>
	</head>
	<body>
	</body>
</html>


Does anyone know what the problem is? It seems a fairly fundamental
issue with Safari & Prototype.
Alex


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RobG

2007-Nov-06 14:55 UTC

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Re: new Element doesn''t work in Safari with Prototype 1.6.0_rc1

On Nov 6, 5:42 pm, Alex MacCaw
<macc...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:> I''m encountering quite a weird problem with Safari 2.0.4 -
''new
> Element'' doesn''t work at all, *unless* you change the
file extension
> of the document you''re loading from xhtml to html.
It seems that Safari uses the file extension rather than the DOCTYPE
declaration.  If you serve your file to Safari as XHTML, I suspect you
will get the same result.

Safari does not appear to support the (non-standard) innerHTML
property for dynamically created elements in XML documents.  If you
try something like:

  alert(typeof newelem.innerHTML)

you will get ''undefined'', whereas ''string''
would be expected if the
innerHTML property was supported (and that is the result for an HTML
document).

[...]> Does anyone know what the problem is? It seems a fairly fundamental
> issue with Safari & Prototype.
Yes, it does, since Prototype is very dependent on innerHTML.  But
then again, using XHTML on the web is pretty much a complete waste of
time.

Incidentally, your document is not a valid XHTML document anyway, so
strictly, if served as application/XML, the result should be an error
message .


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Ed C.

2007-Nov-06 15:25 UTC

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Re: new Element doesn''t work in Safari with Prototype 1.6.0_rc1

Take a look at the content-type header being sent by your web server, and/or
adding a meta tag to your header and "hard coding" the content-type.


On 11/6/07, RobG <rgqld-AFFH1GffN5hPR4JQBCEnsQ@public.gmane.org>
wrote:>
>
>
>
> On Nov 6, 5:42 pm, Alex MacCaw
<macc...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > I''m encountering quite a weird problem with Safari 2.0.4 -
''new
> > Element'' doesn''t work at all, *unless* you change
the file extension
> > of the document you''re loading from xhtml to html.
>
> It seems that Safari uses the file extension rather than the DOCTYPE
> declaration.  If you serve your file to Safari as XHTML, I suspect you
> will get the same result.
>
> Safari does not appear to support the (non-standard) innerHTML
> property for dynamically created elements in XML documents.  If you
> try something like:
>
> alert(typeof newelem.innerHTML)
>
> you will get ''undefined'', whereas
''string'' would be expected if the
> innerHTML property was supported (and that is the result for an HTML
> document).
>
> [...]
> > Does anyone know what the problem is? It seems a fairly fundamental
> > issue with Safari & Prototype.
>
> Yes, it does, since Prototype is very dependent on innerHTML.  But
> then again, using XHTML on the web is pretty much a complete waste of
> time.
>
> Incidentally, your document is not a valid XHTML document anyway, so
> strictly, if served as application/XML, the result should be an error
> message .
>
>
> --
> Rob
>
>
> >
>
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Alex MacCaw

2007-Nov-07 11:06 UTC

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Re: new Element doesn''t work in Safari with Prototype 1.6.0_rc1

Ok, it seems that I''ve been barking up the wrong tree. new
Element(''div'')
works in safari (if you specify the right content-type), but new
Element(''div'', {class: ''cls''})
doesn''t. I presume Safari uses ''class'' for
something else? Anyways, I now have a new problem, but I''ll post that
in a
separate thread.
Thanks
Alex

On Nov 6, 2007 3:25 PM, Ed C.
<defeated2k4-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Take a look at the content-type header being sent by your web server,
> and/or adding a meta tag to your header and "hard coding" the
content-type.
>
>
> On 11/6/07, RobG <rgqld-AFFH1GffN5hPR4JQBCEnsQ@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 6, 5:42 pm, Alex MacCaw
<macc...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > > I''m encountering quite a weird problem with Safari 2.0.4
- ''new
> > > Element'' doesn''t work at all, *unless* you
change the file extension
> > > of the document you''re loading from xhtml to html.
> >
> > It seems that Safari uses the file extension rather than the DOCTYPE
> > declaration.  If you serve your file to Safari as XHTML, I suspect you
> > will get the same result.
> >
> > Safari does not appear to support the (non-standard) innerHTML
> > property for dynamically created elements in XML documents.  If you
> > try something like:
> >
> > alert(typeof newelem.innerHTML)
> >
> > you will get ''undefined'', whereas
''string'' would be expected if the
> > innerHTML property was supported (and that is the result for an HTML
> > document).
> >
> > [...]
> > > Does anyone know what the problem is? It seems a fairly
fundamental
> > > issue with Safari & Prototype.
> >
> > Yes, it does, since Prototype is very dependent on innerHTML.  But
> > then again, using XHTML on the web is pretty much a complete waste of
> > time.
> >
> > Incidentally, your document is not a valid XHTML document anyway, so
> > strictly, if served as application/XML, the result should be an error
> > message .
> >
> >
> > --
> > Rob
> >
> >
> > > >
> >

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Tobie Langel

2007-Nov-07 13:49 UTC

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Re: new Element doesn''t work in Safari with Prototype 1.6.0_rc1

Hi,

class is a reserved keyword in JavaScript.

Prototype supports the two following notations:

new Element(''div'', {''class'':
''cls''});
new Element(''div'', {className: ''cls''});

Regards,

Tobie


On Nov 7, 12:06 pm, "Alex MacCaw"
<macc...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:> Ok, it seems that I''ve been barking up the wrong tree. new
Element(''div'')
> works in safari (if you specify the right content-type), but new
> Element(''div'', {class: ''cls''})
doesn''t. I presume Safari uses ''class'' for
> something else? Anyways, I now have a new problem, but I''ll post
that in a
> separate thread.
> Thanks
> Alex
>
> On Nov 6, 2007 3:25 PM, Ed C.
<defeated...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Take a look at the content-type header being sent by your web server,
> > and/or adding a meta tag to your header and "hard coding"
the content-type.
>
> > On 11/6/07, RobG <rg...-AFFH1GffN5hPR4JQBCEnsQ@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 6, 5:42 pm, Alex MacCaw
<macc...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > > > I''m encountering quite a weird problem with Safari
2.0.4 - ''new
> > > > Element'' doesn''t work at all, *unless* you
change the file extension
> > > > of the document you''re loading from xhtml to html.
>
> > > It seems that Safari uses the file extension rather than the
DOCTYPE
> > > declaration.  If you serve your file to Safari as XHTML, I
suspect you
> > > will get the same result.
>
> > > Safari does not appear to support the (non-standard) innerHTML
> > > property for dynamically created elements in XML documents.  If
you
> > > try something like:
>
> > > alert(typeof newelem.innerHTML)
>
> > > you will get ''undefined'', whereas
''string'' would be expected if the
> > > innerHTML property was supported (and that is the result for an
HTML
> > > document).
>
> > > [...]
> > > > Does anyone know what the problem is? It seems a fairly
fundamental
> > > > issue with Safari & Prototype.
>
> > > Yes, it does, since Prototype is very dependent on innerHTML. 
But
> > > then again, using XHTML on the web is pretty much a complete
waste of
> > > time.
>
> > > Incidentally, your document is not a valid XHTML document anyway,
so
> > > strictly, if served as application/XML, the result should be an
error
> > > message .
>
> > > --
> > > Rob
>
>
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RobG

2007-Nov-11 21:03 UTC

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Re: new Element doesn''t work in Safari with Prototype 1.6.0_rc1

On Nov 7, 12:55 am, RobG <rg...-AFFH1GffN5hPR4JQBCEnsQ@public.gmane.org>
wrote:> On Nov 6, 5:42 pm, Alex MacCaw
<macc...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> > I''m encountering quite a weird problem withSafari2.0.4 -
''new
> > Element'' doesn''t work at all, *unless* you change
the file extension
> > of the document you''re loading from xhtml to html.
>
> It seems thatSafariuses the file extension rather than the DOCTYPE
> declaration.  If you serve your file toSafarias XHTML, I suspect you
> will get the same result.
>
> Safaridoes not appear to support the (non-standard) innerHTML
> property for dynamically created elements in XML documents.
To use innerHTML with an XHTML document in Safari, you must use:

  document.createElementNS(''http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml'',
tagName);


Further details and discussion are here:

<URL:
http://groups.google.com.au/group/comp.lang.javascript/browse_frm/thread/60c993dcbcd65b72/be77261c4bc3fb92?hl=en#be77261c4bc3fb92>

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s.ross

2007-Nov-12 19:17 UTC

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Anyone Know How to Do TextAreas in IE?

I''m struggling a bit with the disparity between how Moz and IE handle  
selection in textarea objects. Does anyone have any prototype- 
leveraging code that encapsulates this kind of thing? The Moz part is  
pretty straightforward and I have it working. The IE stuff is a bit  
of a mystery to me.

TIA,

-s

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Brian Williams

2007-Nov-12 19:21 UTC

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Re: Anyone Know How to Do TextAreas in IE?

selection to what end?


On Nov 12, 2007 2:17 PM, s.ross
<cwdinfo-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> I''m struggling a bit with the disparity between how Moz and IE
handle
> selection in textarea objects. Does anyone have any prototype-
> leveraging code that encapsulates this kind of thing? The Moz part is
> pretty straightforward and I have it working. The IE stuff is a bit
> of a mystery to me.
>
> TIA,
>
> -s
>
> >
>
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s.ross

2007-Nov-12 19:36 UTC

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Re: Anyone Know How to Do TextAreas in IE?

I want to create a special-purpose editor that does live previewing.  
It''s kind of UBB, but of course, all UBBs have their own peculiar  
syntaxes and use cases.

Sample:

- user selects text in textarea
- user presses bold button in interface
- text -> [b]text[/b]

Nothing too fancy, just different in IE and the documentation is very  
sparse. Thought if someone on this list had some code lying around it  
would be worth knowing before I write it myself.

Thx

On Nov 12, 2007, at 11:21 AM, Brian Williams wrote:
> selection to what end?
>
>
> On Nov 12, 2007 2:17 PM, s.ross
<cwdinfo-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> I''m struggling a bit with the disparity between how Moz and IE
handle
> selection in textarea objects. Does anyone have any prototype-
> leveraging code that encapsulates this kind of thing? The Moz part is
> pretty straightforward and I have it working. The IE stuff is a bit
> of a mystery to me.
>
> TIA,
>
> -s
> >

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Brian Williams

2007-Nov-12 19:49 UTC

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Re: Anyone Know How to Do TextAreas in IE?

ah, ok...

quick googling found

http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/showthread.php?t=118115

which lead to
http://parentnode.org/javascript/working-with-the-cursor-position/

good luck and make sure you read through the comments and don''t just
carbon
copy the code
cause its "wrong" but the code in the comments evidently make it much
easier



On Nov 12, 2007 2:36 PM, s.ross
<cwdinfo-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> I want to create a special-purpose editor that does live previewing.
It''s
> kind of UBB, but of course, all UBBs have their own peculiar syntaxes and
> use cases.
> Sample:
>
> - user selects text in textarea
> - user presses bold button in interface
> - text -> [b]text[/b]
>
> Nothing too fancy, just different in IE and the documentation is very
> sparse. Thought if someone on this list had some code lying around it would
> be worth knowing before I write it myself.
>
> Thx
>
> On Nov 12, 2007, at 11:21 AM, Brian Williams wrote:
>
> selection to what end?
>
>
> On Nov 12, 2007 2:17 PM, s.ross
<cwdinfo-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > I''m struggling a bit with the disparity between how Moz and
IE handle
> > selection in textarea objects. Does anyone have any prototype-
> > leveraging code that encapsulates this kind of thing? The Moz part is
> > pretty straightforward and I have it working. The IE stuff is a bit
> > of a mystery to me.
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > -s
> >
> >
> >
>
> >
>
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s.ross

2007-Nov-12 20:00 UTC

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Re: Anyone Know How to Do TextAreas in IE?

Thanks, I''ll check it out. I''ve turned up similar in Google,
and they
are really YMMV solutions. I''ll try to get a somewhat general  
solution and post it somewhere. My Moz implementation is to create a  
TextArea class to encapsulate this with the control as an instance  
variable. Does this make sense or should I be extending something?

Thx

On Nov 12, 2007, at 11:49 AM, Brian Williams wrote:
> ah, ok...
>
> quick googling found
>
> http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/showthread.php?t=118115
>
> which lead to http://parentnode.org/javascript/working-with-the- 
> cursor-position/
>
> good luck and make sure you read through the comments and don''t  
> just carbon copy the code
> cause its "wrong" but the code in the comments evidently make it
> much easier
>
>
>
> On Nov 12, 2007 2:36 PM, s.ross
<cwdinfo-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> I want to create a special-purpose editor that does live  
> previewing. It''s kind of UBB, but of course, all UBBs have their  
> own peculiar syntaxes and use cases.
>
> Sample:
>
> - user selects text in textarea
> - user presses bold button in interface
> - text -> [b]text[/b]
>
> Nothing too fancy, just different in IE and the documentation is  
> very sparse. Thought if someone on this list had some code lying  
> around it would be worth knowing before I write it myself.
>
> Thx
>
> On Nov 12, 2007, at 11:21 AM, Brian Williams wrote:
>
>> selection to what end?
>>
>>
>> On Nov 12, 2007 2:17 PM, s.ross
<cwdinfo-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>
>> I''m struggling a bit with the disparity between how Moz and IE
handle
>> selection in textarea objects. Does anyone have any prototype-
>> leveraging code that encapsulates this kind of thing? The Moz part is
>> pretty straightforward and I have it working. The IE stuff is a bit
>> of a mystery to me.
>>
>> TIA,
>>
>> -s
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >

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Walter Lee Davis

2007-Nov-13 02:13 UTC

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Re: Anyone Know How to Do TextAreas in IE?

On Nov 12, 2007, at 3:00 PM, s.ross wrote:
> Thanks, I''ll check it out. I''ve turned up similar in
Google, and
> they are really YMMV solutions. I''ll try to get a somewhat general
> solution and post it somewhere. My Moz implementation is to create  
> a TextArea class to encapsulate this with the control as an  
> instance variable. Does this make sense or should I be extending  
> something?
>
> Thx
>
> On Nov 12, 2007, at 11:49 AM, Brian Williams wrote:
>
You might want to look at the LivePipe Control.TextArea editor  
widget. I have used that before, and it''s very nice. Does what you  
describe in a very Prototype-centric manner.

Walter

1. http://livepipe.net/projects/control_textarea/

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s.ross

2007-Nov-13 16:16 UTC

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Re: Anyone Know How to Do TextAreas in IE?

On Nov 12, 2007, at 6:13 PM, Walter Lee Davis wrote:> You might want to look at the LivePipe Control.TextArea editor
> widget. I have used that before, and it''s very nice. Does what you
> describe in a very Prototype-centric manner.
>
> Walter
>
> 1. http://livepipe.net/projects/control_textarea/
Great pointer. Just needed a few methods and it worked!

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