Hi, I have certain situations where I want to manage user attributes, if the user already exists on a system, but not actually create them if they are missing. Is there a way to do this? I tried removing the explicit "ensure => present", but this seems to have no effect (i.e. missing users still created). I am running 2.7.9. Thanks, Alan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/puppet-users/-/_3XFEWaz7SQJ. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
Hi Alan, What OS / provider? At first guess I''d say it''s a side affect of the commands the provider is using to change user attributes (useradd instead of usermod?). If you run puppet with --debug you might get output from the provider to see what it''s doing. -Luke On 31/05/12 17:25, GriffaA10 wrote:> Hi, > > I have certain situations where I want to manage user attributes, if > the user already exists on a system, but not actually create them if > they are missing. Is there a way to do this? > > I tried removing the explicit "ensure => present", but this seems to > have no effect (i.e. missing users still created). > > I am running 2.7.9. > > Thanks, > > Alan > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Puppet Users" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/puppet-users/-/_3XFEWaz7SQJ. > To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.-- Luke Bigum Information Systems Ph: +44 (0) 20 3192 2520 luke.bigum@lmax.com | http://www.lmax.com LMAX, Yellow Building, 1A Nicholas Road, London W11 4AN FX and CFDs are leveraged products that can result in losses exceeding your deposit. They are not suitable for everyone so please ensure you fully understand the risks involved. The information in this email is not directed at residents of the United States of America or any other jurisdiction where trading in CFDs and/or FX is restricted or prohibited by local laws or regulations. The information in this email and any attachment is confidential and is intended only for the named recipient(s). The email may not be disclosed or used by any person other than the addressee, nor may it be copied in any way. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender immediately and delete any copies of this message. Any unauthorised copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. LMAX operates a multilateral trading facility. Authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority (firm registration number 509778) and is registered in England and Wales (number 06505809). Our registered address is Yellow Building, 1A Nicholas Road, London, W11 4AN. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
On Fedora the behaviour between types is different. A file resource is
not created if it doesn''t exist:
notice: Finished catalog run in 0.08 seconds
biguml@biguml-laptop:~$ ls -ld /tmp/woof
ls: cannot access /tmp/woof: No such file or directory
biguml@biguml-laptop:~$ cat test.pp
file { ''/tmp/woof'':
owner => ''biguml'',
}
A user resource is created:
debug: User[woof](provider=useradd): Executing ''/usr/sbin/useradd -s
/bin/false -M woof''
notice: /Stage[main]//User[woof]/ensure: created
notice: Finished catalog run in 0.42 seconds
biguml@biguml-laptop:~$ cat test.pp
user { ''woof'':
shell => ''/bin/false''
}
I''m not sure if this is a bug or feature.
As for trying to get the behaviour that you want, it''s a bit difficult
without having Facts for all your existing users or using an Exec resource.
-Luke
On 01/06/12 13:43, Luke Bigum wrote:> Hi Alan,
>
> What OS / provider? At first guess I''d say it''s a side
affect of the
> commands the provider is using to change user attributes (useradd
> instead of usermod?). If you run puppet with --debug you might get
> output from the provider to see what it''s doing.
>
> -Luke
>
> On 31/05/12 17:25, GriffaA10 wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have certain situations where I want to manage user attributes, if
>> the user already exists on a system, but not actually create them if
>> they are missing. Is there a way to do this?
>>
>> I tried removing the explicit "ensure => present", but
this seems to
>> have no effect (i.e. missing users still created).
>>
>> I am running 2.7.9.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Alan
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I''m on Centos 5 - which I assume would behave the same as Fedora. From my testing it would seem that the default behaviour for user type is to create if absent. I tried looking at the Puppet source to see if this behaviour can be easily modified, but as someone who doesn''t know Ruby I couldn''t get a handle on it. On Friday, 1 June 2012 13:54:23 UTC+1, Luke Bigum wrote:> > On Fedora the behaviour between types is different. A file resource is > not created if it doesn''t exist: > > notice: Finished catalog run in 0.08 seconds > biguml@biguml-laptop:~$ ls -ld /tmp/woof > ls: cannot access /tmp/woof: No such file or directory > > biguml@biguml-laptop:~$ cat test.pp > file { ''/tmp/woof'': > owner => ''biguml'', > } > > A user resource is created: > > debug: User[woof](provider=useradd): Executing ''/usr/sbin/useradd -s > /bin/false -M woof'' > notice: /Stage[main]//User[woof]/ensure: created > notice: Finished catalog run in 0.42 seconds > > biguml@biguml-laptop:~$ cat test.pp > user { ''woof'': > shell => ''/bin/false'' > } > > I''m not sure if this is a bug or feature. > > As for trying to get the behaviour that you want, it''s a bit difficult > without having Facts for all your existing users or using an Exec > resource. > > -Luke > > On 01/06/12 13:43, Luke Bigum wrote: > > Hi Alan, > > > > What OS / provider? At first guess I''d say it''s a side affect of the > > commands the provider is using to change user attributes (useradd > > instead of usermod?). If you run puppet with --debug you might get > > output from the provider to see what it''s doing. > > > > -Luke > > > > On 31/05/12 17:25, GriffaA10 wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I have certain situations where I want to manage user attributes, if > >> the user already exists on a system, but not actually create them if > >> they are missing. Is there a way to do this? > >> > >> I tried removing the explicit "ensure => present", but this seems to > >> have no effect (i.e. missing users still created). > >> > >> I am running 2.7.9. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Alan > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> Groups "Puppet Users" group. > >> To view this discussion on the web visit > >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/puppet-users/-/_3XFEWaz7SQJ. > >> To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en. > > > > > > > -- > Luke Bigum > > Information Systems > Ph: +44 (0) 20 3192 2520 > luke.bigum@lmax.com | http://www.lmax.com > LMAX, Yellow Building, 1A Nicholas Road, London W11 4AN > > > FX and CFDs are leveraged products that can result in losses exceeding > your deposit. They are not suitable for everyone so please ensure you > fully understand the risks involved. The information in this email is not > directed at residents of the United States of America or any other > jurisdiction where trading in CFDs and/or FX is restricted or prohibited > by local laws or regulations. > > The information in this email and any attachment is confidential and is > intended only for the named recipient(s). The email may not be disclosed > or used by any person other than the addressee, nor may it be copied in > any way. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender > immediately and delete any copies of this message. Any unauthorised > copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is > strictly forbidden. > > LMAX operates a multilateral trading facility. Authorised and regulated > by the Financial Services Authority (firm registration number 509778) and > is registered in England and Wales (number 06505809). > Our registered address is Yellow Building, 1A Nicholas Road, London, W11 > 4AN. >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/puppet-users/-/W52mIF64uKoJ. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
Use a virtual resource ? It will not be created unless you explicitly realize it. You can centrally manage a collection of virtual users on your Puppet Master, creating only those you want on the nodes you want them on. Does that satisfy your requirement ? “Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us.” Bill Waterson (Calvin & Hobbes) ----- GriffaA10 <alan.griffiths@interoute.com> wrote:> I''m on Centos 5 - which I assume would behave the same as Fedora. From my > testing it would seem that the default behaviour for user type is to create > if absent. I tried looking at the Puppet source to see if this behaviour > can be easily modified, but as someone who doesn''t know Ruby I couldn''t get > a handle on it. > > On Friday, 1 June 2012 13:54:23 UTC+1, Luke Bigum wrote: > > > > On Fedora the behaviour between types is different. A file resource is > > not created if it doesn''t exist: > > > > notice: Finished catalog run in 0.08 seconds > > biguml@biguml-laptop:~$ ls -ld /tmp/woof > > ls: cannot access /tmp/woof: No such file or directory > > > > biguml@biguml-laptop:~$ cat test.pp > > file { ''/tmp/woof'': > > owner => ''biguml'', > > } > > > > A user resource is created: > > > > debug: User[woof](provider=useradd): Executing ''/usr/sbin/useradd -s > > /bin/false -M woof'' > > notice: /Stage[main]//User[woof]/ensure: created > > notice: Finished catalog run in 0.42 seconds > > > > biguml@biguml-laptop:~$ cat test.pp > > user { ''woof'': > > shell => ''/bin/false'' > > } > > > > I''m not sure if this is a bug or feature. > > > > As for trying to get the behaviour that you want, it''s a bit difficult > > without having Facts for all your existing users or using an Exec > > resource. > > > > -Luke > > > > On 01/06/12 13:43, Luke Bigum wrote: > > > Hi Alan, > > > > > > What OS / provider? At first guess I''d say it''s a side affect of the > > > commands the provider is using to change user attributes (useradd > > > instead of usermod?). If you run puppet with --debug you might get > > > output from the provider to see what it''s doing. > > > > > > -Luke > > > > > > On 31/05/12 17:25, GriffaA10 wrote: > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> I have certain situations where I want to manage user attributes, if > > >> the user already exists on a system, but not actually create them if > > >> they are missing. Is there a way to do this? > > >> > > >> I tried removing the explicit "ensure => present", but this seems to > > >> have no effect (i.e. missing users still created). > > >> > > >> I am running 2.7.9. > > >> > > >> Thanks, > > >> > > >> Alan > > >> -- > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > >> Groups "Puppet Users" group. > > >> To view this discussion on the web visit > > >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/puppet-users/-/_3XFEWaz7SQJ. > > >> To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >> puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > >> For more options, visit this group at > > >> http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Luke Bigum > > > > Information Systems > > Ph: +44 (0) 20 3192 2520 > > luke.bigum@lmax.com | http://www.lmax.com > > LMAX, Yellow Building, 1A Nicholas Road, London W11 4AN > > > > > > FX and CFDs are leveraged products that can result in losses exceeding > > your deposit. They are not suitable for everyone so please ensure you > > fully understand the risks involved. The information in this email is not > > directed at residents of the United States of America or any other > > jurisdiction where trading in CFDs and/or FX is restricted or prohibited > > by local laws or regulations. > > > > The information in this email and any attachment is confidential and is > > intended only for the named recipient(s). The email may not be disclosed > > or used by any person other than the addressee, nor may it be copied in > > any way. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender > > immediately and delete any copies of this message. Any unauthorised > > copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is > > strictly forbidden. > > > > LMAX operates a multilateral trading facility. 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The overhead of explicity realising the resources would be too great. Specifically what I am trying to achive is disabling accounts on existing hosts, while preventing them from being created when new hosts are turned up. So when a user leaves the company the account would be disabled by locking the password and disabling the shell, and if new host was turned up tomorrow I would not want the account created there. On Friday, 1 June 2012 15:55:22 UTC+1, Ygor wrote:> > Use a virtual resource ? > > It will not be created unless you explicitly realize it. > > You can centrally manage a collection of virtual users on your Puppet > Master, > creating only those you want on the nodes you want them on. > > Does that satisfy your requirement ? > > “Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere > in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us.” > Bill Waterson (Calvin & Hobbes) > > ----- GriffaA10 <alan.griffiths@interoute.com> wrote: > > I''m on Centos 5 - which I assume would behave the same as Fedora. From > my > > testing it would seem that the default behaviour for user type is to > create > > if absent. I tried looking at the Puppet source to see if this behaviour > > can be easily modified, but as someone who doesn''t know Ruby I couldn''t > get > > a handle on it. > > > > On Friday, 1 June 2012 13:54:23 UTC+1, Luke Bigum wrote: > > > > > > On Fedora the behaviour between types is different. A file resource is > > > not created if it doesn''t exist: > > > > > > notice: Finished catalog run in 0.08 seconds > > > biguml@biguml-laptop:~$ ls -ld /tmp/woof > > > ls: cannot access /tmp/woof: No such file or directory > > > > > > biguml@biguml-laptop:~$ cat test.pp > > > file { ''/tmp/woof'': > > > owner => ''biguml'', > > > } > > > > > > A user resource is created: > > > > > > debug: User[woof](provider=useradd): Executing ''/usr/sbin/useradd -s > > > /bin/false -M woof'' > > > notice: /Stage[main]//User[woof]/ensure: created > > > notice: Finished catalog run in 0.42 seconds > > > > > > biguml@biguml-laptop:~$ cat test.pp > > > user { ''woof'': > > > shell => ''/bin/false'' > > > } > > > > > > I''m not sure if this is a bug or feature. > > > > > > As for trying to get the behaviour that you want, it''s a bit difficult > > > without having Facts for all your existing users or using an Exec > > > resource. > > > > > > -Luke > > > > > > On 01/06/12 13:43, Luke Bigum wrote: > > > > Hi Alan, > > > > > > > > What OS / provider? At first guess I''d say it''s a side affect of the > > > > commands the provider is using to change user attributes (useradd > > > > instead of usermod?). If you run puppet with --debug you might get > > > > output from the provider to see what it''s doing. > > > > > > > > -Luke > > > > > > > > On 31/05/12 17:25, GriffaA10 wrote: > > > >> Hi, > > > >> > > > >> I have certain situations where I want to manage user attributes, > if > > > >> the user already exists on a system, but not actually create them > if > > > >> they are missing. Is there a way to do this? > > > >> > > > >> I tried removing the explicit "ensure => present", but this seems > to > > > >> have no effect (i.e. missing users still created). > > > >> > > > >> I am running 2.7.9. > > > >> > > > >> Thanks, > > > >> > > > >> Alan > > > >> -- > > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > >> Groups "Puppet Users" group. > > > >> To view this discussion on the web visit > > > >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/puppet-users/-/_3XFEWaz7SQJ. > > > >> To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. > > > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > >> puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > > >> For more options, visit this group at > > > >> http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Luke Bigum > > > > > > Information Systems > > > Ph: +44 (0) 20 3192 2520 > > > luke.bigum@lmax.com | http://www.lmax.com > > > LMAX, Yellow Building, 1A Nicholas Road, London W11 4AN > > > > > > > > > FX and CFDs are leveraged products that can result in losses exceeding > > > your deposit. They are not suitable for everyone so please ensure you > > > fully understand the risks involved. The information in this email is > not > > > directed at residents of the United States of America or any other > > > jurisdiction where trading in CFDs and/or FX is restricted or > prohibited > > > by local laws or regulations. > > > > > > The information in this email and any attachment is confidential and > is > > > intended only for the named recipient(s). The email may not be > disclosed > > > or used by any person other than the addressee, nor may it be copied > in > > > any way. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the > sender > > > immediately and delete any copies of this message. Any unauthorised > > > copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is > > > strictly forbidden. > > > > > > LMAX operates a multilateral trading facility. 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On Jun 1, 8:49 am, GriffaA10 <alan.griffi...@interoute.com> wrote:> The overhead of explicity realising the resources would be too great. > > Specifically what I am trying to achive is disabling accounts on existing > hosts, while preventing them from being created when new hosts are turned > up. So when a user leaves the company the account would be disabled by > locking the password and disabling the shell, and if new host was turned up > tomorrow I would not want the account created there.The only straightforward (but hackish) way I see to achieve this is with an Exec and onlyif (probably wrapped in a define): define dead_user($username) { exec { "remove-user-${username}": onlyif => "/usr/bin/getent passwd ${username} >/dev/null", command => "/usr/sbin/usermod ... ${username}", } } Another possibility would be to make a fact that returns all of users on a system and do something with that--maybe returns a colon-delimited list and uses the ''split'' function and the ''member'' function from stdlib. Wil -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
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