Puppet users - Jan 2009 - Stoking a Religious War: Why Did You Go With Puppet Over Other Options?

Hi, Gang..

  The Subject: line says it all. My organisation is looking at
selecting a configuration management
system. Any comments about why you chose Puppet over other options
would be very helpful to us.

Cheers,
Tomcat

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2009/1/27 tomcat <akocurko@mun.ca>:
>
> Hi, Gang..
>
>  The Subject: line says it all. My organisation is looking at
> selecting a configuration management
> system. Any comments about why you chose Puppet over other options
> would be very helpful to us.
>
My reason was just readability, I was comparing puppet with cfengine
and reading through the documentation I found the puppet examples to
be much more readable.

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On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Jonathan Share <jon.share@gmail.com>
wrote:
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> 2009/1/27 tomcat <akocurko@mun.ca>:
>>
>> Hi, Gang..
>>
>>  The Subject: line says it all. My organisation is looking at
>> selecting a configuration management
>> system. Any comments about why you chose Puppet over other options
>> would be very helpful to us.
>>
>
Well, there are basicly 4 options really in this area.

1) roll-your-own
2) cfengine
3) puppet
and now 4) Chef

Problems with option one range from scalability to maintainability. It
does have the advantage of being dirt cheap and you know everything
about it in house, but for me the maintenance issues were driving me
to something else. Option 2 was just a right PITA everytime I tried to
use it. Option 4 was not available at the time.

So I started with puppet, since then puppet has just gotten better and
keeps making life better. It scales great. It has made doing OS
upgrades much easier. Basicly made everything I do maintenance wise
better.

Evan

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On Jan 27, 9:47 am, Evan Hisey <ehi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Jonathan Share <jon.sh...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> > 2009/1/27 tomcat <akocu...@mun.ca>:
>
> >> Hi, Gang..
>
> >>  The Subject: line says it all. My organisation is looking at
> >> selecting a configuration management
> >> system. Any comments about why you chose Puppet over other options
> >> would be very helpful to us.
>
> Well, there are basicly 4 options really in this area.
>
> 1) roll-your-own
> 2) cfengine
> 3) puppet
> and now 4) Chef
Don''t forget Capistrano which some use for administration (I think
it''s better suited for app deployment)

The reasons why we chose Puppet
- Language is easy to understand, read and learn
- Self healing in the sense if something is borked it will try to make
it the state you specify
- Template options are pretty flexible.
- Language is abstract for the resources you choose (makes it easier
to implement multiple OSes)

Hope this helps.



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I swear by Puppet. It''s the right tool for the task, designed from the
ground up to do what it does best. That plus it is super-flexible, readable,
extensible, and has a dope community.

That''s my un-professional, not-so-well written $.02.



On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Larry Ludwig <larrylud@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Jan 27, 9:47 am, Evan Hisey <ehi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Jonathan Share
<jon.sh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > 2009/1/27 tomcat <akocu...@mun.ca>:
> >
> > >> Hi, Gang..
> >
> > >>  The Subject: line says it all. My organisation is looking at
> > >> selecting a configuration management
> > >> system. Any comments about why you chose Puppet over other
options
> > >> would be very helpful to us.
> >
> > Well, there are basicly 4 options really in this area.
> >
> > 1) roll-your-own
> > 2) cfengine
> > 3) puppet
> > and now 4) Chef
>
> Don''t forget Capistrano which some use for administration (I think
> it''s better suited for app deployment)
>
> The reasons why we chose Puppet
> - Language is easy to understand, read and learn
> - Self healing in the sense if something is borked it will try to make
> it the state you specify
> - Template options are pretty flexible.
> - Language is abstract for the resources you choose (makes it easier
> to implement multiple OSes)
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
>
> >
>
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My reasoning is pretty simplistic. Because Luke is a businessman who  
built Puppet with what I believe is the goal of turning it into a  
sustainable business that solves problems for businesses. All of the  
other alternatives were built by academics as reasons to write papers  
that would get them to LISA for free. I sat down with Luke and someone  
from RedHat 3 or 4 years ago while he was developing Puppet, and had a  
bitch session about why I hated CFEngine. I clearly laid out what
I felt would be valuable (IE something I''d pay for) and it felt that  
he listened. It was the right move.

On Jan 27, 2009, at 5:39 AM, tomcat wrote:
>
> Hi, Gang..
>
>  The Subject: line says it all. My organisation is looking at
> selecting a configuration management
> system. Any comments about why you chose Puppet over other options
> would be very helpful to us.
>
> Cheers,
> Tomcat
>
> >
--
Michael T. Halligan
http://www.datacenterjunkie.com/	


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On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 05:39:05AM -0800, tomcat wrote:
> 
> Hi, Gang..
> 
> The Subject: line says it all. My organisation is looking at
> selecting a configuration management system. Any comments about
> why you chose Puppet over other options would be very helpful to
> us.
Because after helping my company put together ~600K lines of
cfengine configs, I thought it was time to check out other options.
Puppet has so far (in a much smaller environment) completely failed
to have any of the problems that annoyed me with cfengine.

The only trouble I''ve had so far is the lack of anything like
EditFiles, but Augeas is fixing that.

-Robin

-- 
They say:  "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons."
And I''m thinking:  "Does it even occur to you to try for something
other than the default outcome?" -- http://shorl.com/tydruhedufogre
http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/

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