Vorbis dev - Feb 2012 - Need for help about using vorbis in embedded system

Hi All,
?? I am a new member to the vorbis-dev mailing list. i hope that u receive the
help that i've been searching for.
I need to compress audio samples captured by wireless sensor node (16-bit PCM at
8Khz). can i use vorbis i such an embedded system environment that has the
following HW/SW specifications:

-416 MHz Microprocessor(ARM architecture, Intel Xscale family)

-32 MB RAM
Beside that,i can use C language for developmnet.

Do these specifications work for compressing the captured audio samples so that
i get them in smaller size for transmitting them wirelessly?

? Any Help or Advice Is Very Appreciated.

Regards.
Mash'al
Jordan Univeristy Of science and Technology
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On 28 February 2012 15:47, Mashal al-shboul <shboul8989 at yahoo.com>
wrote:
> I need to compress audio samples captured by wireless sensor node (16-bit
> PCM at 8Khz). can i use vorbis i such an embedded system environment that
> has the following HW/SW specifications:
>
> -416 MHz Microprocessor(ARM architecture, Intel Xscale family)
Yes, the reference encoder should work in realtime on a system like
that. Note that's it's not especially well-tuned for 8 kHz audio; most
people use it at 48 or 44.1 kHz. It will work though.

You might also be interested in the new Opus codec we're developing.
It's somewhat higher complexity, but offers superiour compression and
the reference implementation includes a fixed-point encoder, which may
make up for the complexity difference on XScale.
http://opus-codec.org/

Cheers,
 -r

Hi Gunter,
Thank you for your helpful information.
i would like ask about what i found on the website(vorbis.com) telling that
integer-only vorbis is available as decoder,does this mean that integer-only
processor (not supporting floating point or weakly supporting it through
co-processor) in an embedded system can't have vorbis operating well ?.

kindly where can i find tutorials or examples on using ogg/vorbis (especially
for embedded systems)?


Thanks again for the help

Regards.
Mash'al
Jordan univerity of science and technology.



________________________________
 From: Gunter K?nigsmann <gunter at peterpall.de>
To: Mashal al-shboul <shboul8989 at yahoo.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Vorbis-dev] Need for help about using vorbis in embedded system
 
Normally when using vorbis to compress audio data the vorbis bit stream is
packaged into an ogg? container format before transferring it to another
computer or saving it. How this is done can be seen e.G. in the source code of
the oggenc utility.

Ogg is definitively organized in packets - and might be especially suited for
your project:
If the first four ogg packets are intact (besides the metadata and the
information how many streams of which type are packaged in your ogg container
they contain the encoder setup information that is indispensable for decoding
the vorbis stream again) your stream will still work if any number of audio
packets gets lost. All you loose is the few milliseconds of audio data that were
contained in the lost packets.
If the device you are building doesn't know if any receiver is currently
running and thus cannot make sure that the first four packages of your stream
have ever arrived you could even decide to start a new ogg container every
minute:
If you concatenate any number of short ogg files the result is a long ogg file
that is still working and valid - but this way you will get a new valid ogg
header containing all vorbis encoder settings that are necessary to decode the
stream every minute.

Kind regards,

? ?  Gunter.






On 29.02.2012 01:46, Mashal al-shboul wrote:
> Thank you for replying.
> i would like to add another question.what is the output(as data
> structure) that is expected from the vorbis?,can i get the output in a
> segmented form that is suitable for packetizing(in arrays or buffer data
> structures) at a sender-side, and reassembling at a receiver-side?
> note: i am using iMote2 sensor node with PXA271/XScale processor of ARM
> architecture,TinyOS operating system,and C with nesC programming languages.
> 
> sorry for asking much
> 
> Regards,
> Mash'al
> Jordan
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Ralph Giles <giles at thaumas.net>
> *To:* Mashal al-shboul <shboul8989 at yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* "vorbis-dev at xiph.org" <vorbis-dev at xiph.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 29, 2012 2:07 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Vorbis-dev] Need for help about using vorbis in embedded
> system
> 
> On 28 February 2012 15:47, Mashal al-shboul <shboul8989 at yahoo.com
> <mailto:shboul8989 at yahoo.com>> wrote:
> 
>? > I need to compress audio samples captured by wireless sensor node
(16-bit
>? > PCM at 8Khz). can i use vorbis i such an embedded system environment
that
>? > has the following HW/SW specifications:
>? >
>? > -416 MHz Microprocessor(ARM architecture, Intel Xscale family)
> 
> Yes, the reference encoder should work in realtime on a system like
> that. Note that's it's not especially well-tuned for 8 kHz audio;
most
> people use it at 48 or 44.1 kHz. It will work though.
> 
> You might also be interested in the new Opus codec we're developing.
> It's somewhat higher complexity, but offers superiour compression and
> the reference implementation includes a fixed-point encoder, which may
> make up for the complexity difference on XScale.
> http://opus-codec.org/
> 
> Cheers,
> -r
> 
> 
> 
> 
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