Lustre discuss - Nov 2012 - New Test Framework Development Group Call

Hi All,

Nathan, Roman and I have been having discussions about the new test framework,
many of you will have read Nathan''s requirements specification. In
order to start making some serious progress with this we have decided to
instigate a weekly technical call.

The first objective is to agree a common goal and once that is in place we will
manage the process of executing the development of the new test framework. Jodi
Levi who many of you know will be providing her PM skills to this development.

The call is open to all and has the following time and bridge information.

Every Tuesday starting on the 27th November
01:00 CST, 08:00 PST, 17:00 GMT, 21:00 MSK

Bridge Info
+1 916-356-2663, Bridge: 1, Passcode: 1146033

Note: We have a whole bunch of world wide local numbers so if your not US based
(and I''m not) please email me your location and I''ll reply
with with your local number.

Many thanks

Chris



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Hi All,

I sent out a mail about the new test framework development group call and as
Bruce spotted didn''t get the timezones right!

Again call is open to all and has the following time and bridge information.

The correct times are

Every Tuesday starting on the 27th November:
00:00 CST, 08:00 PST, 16:00 GMT, 20:00 MSK

Bridge Info:
+1 916-356-2663, Bridge: 1, Passcode: 1146033

Note: We have a whole bunch of world wide local numbers so if your not US based
(and I''m not) please email me your location and I''ll reply
with with your local number.

Many thanks

Chris



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Hi, Chris.

I''m still confused about the time.

Every Tuesday starting on the 27th November
<< 01:00 CST, 08:00 PST, 17:00 GMT, 21:00 MSK
 >> 00:00 CST, 08:00 PST, 16:00 GMT, 20:00 MSK

Both of those listings are inaccurate.  Neither 01:00 or 00:00 CST == 
08:00 PST.

Since 8 PST == 16 GMT == 20 MSK, I''m guessing that you mean:
10:00 CST, 08:00 PST, 16:00 GMT, 20:00 MSK

Is that right?

Thanks,
-Cory

On 11/22/2012 11:47 AM, Gearing, Chris wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I sent out a mail about the new test framework development group call and
as Bruce spotted didn''t get the timezones right!
>
> Again call is open to all and has the following time and bridge
information.
>
> The correct times are
>
> Every Tuesday starting on the 27th November:
> 00:00 CST, 08:00 PST, 16:00 GMT, 20:00 MSK
>
> Bridge Info:
> +1 916-356-2663, Bridge: 1, Passcode: 1146033
>
> Note: We have a whole bunch of world wide local numbers so if your not US
based (and I''m not) please email me your location and I''ll
reply with with your local number.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Chris
>
>
>
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On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Cory Spitz <spitzcor at cray.com>
wrote:
> Hi, Chris.
>
> I''m still confused about the time.
>
> Every Tuesday starting on the 27th November
> << 01:00 CST, 08:00 PST, 17:00 GMT, 21:00 MSK
>>> 00:00 CST, 08:00 PST, 16:00 GMT, 20:00 MSK
>
> Both of those listings are inaccurate.  Neither 01:00 or 00:00 CST == 08:00
> PST.
>
> Since 8 PST == 16 GMT == 20 MSK, I''m guessing that you mean:
> 10:00 CST, 08:00 PST, 16:00 GMT, 20:00 MSK
>
> Is that right?
For myself, I''d as soon see strictly UTC for international times (aka
"GMT" or "Zulu").
I know my offset and, obviously, it is often confusing to get the time
zone correct
for other people in other time zones.  I had also presumed 16:00 Zulu
was correct. :)

Cheers - Bruce

Bruce is right just give the canonical form which is 16:00 UTC.

Also CST is China Standard Time not to be confused with the other CST
being Central Standard Time
(Is that really true, I can''t find any other designator for the China
timezone)

Thanks for the patience.

Chris

On 26/11/2012 20:53, "Bruce Korb" <bruce_korb at xyratex.com>
wrote:
>On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Cory Spitz <spitzcor at cray.com>
wrote:
>> Hi, Chris.
>>
>> I''m still confused about the time.
>>
>> Every Tuesday starting on the 27th November
>> << 01:00 CST, 08:00 PST, 17:00 GMT, 21:00 MSK
>>>> 00:00 CST, 08:00 PST, 16:00 GMT, 20:00 MSK
>>
>> Both of those listings are inaccurate.  Neither 01:00 or 00:00 CST
=>>08:00
>> PST.
>>
>> Since 8 PST == 16 GMT == 20 MSK, I''m guessing that you mean:
>> 10:00 CST, 08:00 PST, 16:00 GMT, 20:00 MSK
>>
>> Is that right?
>
>For myself, I''d as soon see strictly UTC for international times
(aka
>"GMT" or "Zulu").
>I know my offset and, obviously, it is often confusing to get the time
>zone correct
>for other people in other time zones.  I had also presumed 16:00 Zulu
>was correct. :)
>
>Cheers - Bruce
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http://www.worldtimezone.com/index24.php

On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 2:22 AM, Gearing, Chris <chris.gearing at
intel.com> wrote:
> Also CST is China Standard Time not to be confused with the other CST
The time zone TLA''s are local conventions.  CST is meaningful only in
the US (or China).
That''s why the phonetic alphabet is used for the canonical names,
though
the referenced map didn''t spell out Mary and Yankee. (Time zones with
offsets
of +/- 12 from Zulu.)

Speaking of TLA''s, I''m sure this is TMI.  :)

Hi,

Here are the brief notes from the meeting we held on Tuesday 27th November .

Attendees: Nathan Rutman, Roman Grigoryev Cory Spitz, Bruce Korb, Denis
Kondratenko, Ashley Pittman, Jeff Garlough and at least one other I could not
identify.

The major discussion was about evolution vs revolution, the outcome was that
evolution would be nice but that we should not compromise the new framework to
enable it.

To enable this it as decided that we should define the complete
requirements/design for the new framework and then assess if a evolution is
possible, if possible then this is an added benefit if not then old and new will
have to exist in parallel.

The actions are;

1. Create a wiki entry on the OpenSFS wiki where everybody can add their wish
list and requirements. (Chris)
2 .Send a note to the usual lists to explain the request for ideas. (Chris)

This group will meet again in 2 weeks to review and prioritise the list, and
agree how a usable document of some sort can be created from the scribble.

Thanks

Chris

The meeting info is, feel free to attend at will but please send me a note so I
can keep track of the attendees;

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Hi,

During the last meeting we decided to setup a Wiki page to allow everyone to
capture their thoughts, requirements and ideas for possible inclusion into the
new framework environment.

This page is now available on the OpenSFS Wiki and we would welcome your input
before the 7th December, please provide input how big or small.

http://wiki.opensfs.org/New_test_framework

Many thanks

Chris

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On 12-12-01 17:55, Gearing, Chris wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> During the last meeting we decided to setup a Wiki page to allow everyone
to capture their thoughts, requirements and ideas for possible inclusion into
the new framework environment.
> 
> This page is now available on the OpenSFS Wiki and we would welcome your
input before the 7th December, please provide input how big or small.
> 
> http://wiki.opensfs.org/New_test_framework
Hi,
I cannot open wiki page and see message:
................................................
Fatal error: Call to undefined function session_name() in
/home/opensfs_admin/wiki.opensfs.org/includes/Setup.php on line 456
................................................

-- 
Thanks,
    Roman
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Chris
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On 12-12-01 17:55, Gearing, Chris wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> During the last meeting we decided to setup a Wiki page to allow everyone
to capture their thoughts, requirements and ideas for possible inclusion into
the new framework environment.
> 
> This page is now available on the OpenSFS Wiki and we would welcome your
input before the 7th December, please provide input how big or small.
> 
> http://wiki.opensfs.org/New_test_framework
Hi,
I suggest add columns for comments/questions in this table.

-- 
Thanks,
    Roman

Hi all,

OpenSFS'' web hosting site moved our account to a new server. The
situation with our web pages has improved but load times are still a little
long. We will continue to work the issue with our hosting site.

Regards,
Pam 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lustre-devel-bounces at lists.opensfs.org [mailto:lustre-devel-
> bounces at lists.opensfs.org] On Behalf Of Roman Grigoryev
> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 1:52 AM
> To: Gearing, Chris
> Cc: WC-Discuss; lustre-devel at lists.opensfs.org; lustre-
> discuss at lists.lustre.org
> Subject: Re: [lustre-devel] [Lustre-discuss] New Test Framework
> Development - Requirements Capture
> 
> On 12-12-01 17:55, Gearing, Chris wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > During the last meeting we decided to setup a Wiki page to allow
> everyone to capture their thoughts, requirements and ideas for possible
> inclusion into the new framework environment.
> >
> > This page is now available on the OpenSFS Wiki and we would welcome
> your input before the 7th December, please provide input how big or
> small.
> >
> > http://wiki.opensfs.org/New_test_framework
> 
> Hi,
> I cannot open wiki page and see message:
> ................................................
> Fatal error: Call to undefined function session_name() in
> /home/opensfs_admin/wiki.opensfs.org/includes/Setup.php on line 456
> ................................................
> 
> --
> Thanks,
>     Roman
> 
> >
> > Many thanks
> >
> > Chris
> >
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Renaming Chris'' page to "Test Framework Requiremens", I have
added an upper-level page
http://wiki.opensfs.org/Improving_the_test_framework
that references the three areas of focus we identified on our last phonecall:
	? Development of a completely new test framework that will provide the
capabilities to test Lustre at exascale.
	? Incremental benefits by improving current test framework.
	? Providing better coverage by improving individual tests.
and links to the requirements page.



On Dec 1, 2012, at 9:55 AM, "Gearing, Chris" <chris.gearing at
intel.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> During the last meeting we decided to setup a Wiki page to allow everyone
to capture their thoughts, requirements and ideas for possible inclusion into
the new framework environment.
> 
> This page is now available on the OpenSFS Wiki and we would welcome your
input before the 7th December, please provide input how big or small.
> 
> http://wiki.opensfs.org/New_test_framework
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Chris
> 
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