R devel - Nov 2004 - problem with tcltk under Windows (was RE: [R] one more Rcmdrproblem)

Dear all,
I'd like to use Rcmdr for teaching purposes but still have problems
trying to use it under Windows XP. Everything works fine up to several
minutes but then Rcmdr and R completely crash the second I hit a button
or key. This indeed looks like a problem with tcltk. It is not any
particular button or key that causes the crash, but using Ctrl+C to copy
something to the clipboard seem the most 'reliable' cause. I tried this
on 4 different PCs all under Windows XP (home or prof.), SP1. I did
download and reinstall R 2.0.0, RCmdr and required packages on Nov. 1,
2004, but that didn't help either. Are there any new insights into these 
problems?

Best regards,
Thomas

-- 
Thomas Ruf
Institute of Wildlife Ecology
University of Veterinary Medicine
Vienna, Austria
Tel.: *43 1 4890915 150
Fax:  *43 1 4890915 550
http://www.fiwi.at/

This is known and we believe already fixed, so please try a beta of 2.0.1, 
from

http://cran.r-project.org/bin/windows/base/rpatched.html

[BTW, the header is wrong, this is R-2.0.1 beta, not patch.]

Or just don't use Ctrl-C ....

On Thu, 4 Nov 2004, Thomas Ruf wrote:
> Dear all,
> I'd like to use Rcmdr for teaching purposes but still have problems
> trying to use it under Windows XP. Everything works fine up to several
> minutes but then Rcmdr and R completely crash the second I hit a button
> or key. This indeed looks like a problem with tcltk. It is not any
> particular button or key that causes the crash, but using Ctrl+C to copy
> something to the clipboard seem the most 'reliable' cause. I tried
this
> on 4 different PCs all under Windows XP (home or prof.), SP1. I did
> download and reinstall R 2.0.0, RCmdr and required packages on Nov. 1,
> 2004, but that didn't help either. Are there any new insights into
these
> problems?
> 
> Best regards,
> Thomas
> 
> 
-- 
Brian D. Ripley,                  ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk
Professor of Applied Statistics,  http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/
University of Oxford,             Tel:  +44 1865 272861 (self)
1 South Parks Road,                     +44 1865 272866 (PA)
Oxford OX1 3TG, UK                Fax:  +44 1865 272595

Dear Thomas,

Brian Ripley has already mentioned that Windows/tcltk problems have been
fixed in R 2.0.1 beta. I'll provide some background.

In addition to the control-key problems with R 2.0.0, I and my students have
been experiencing a number of Windows instability problems running the Rcmdr
this fall. The version of R that my students have is 1.9.1 patched, and the
same version is installed in the university computer labs. I found that with
this version and R 2.0.0 (under Windows 2000 and XP), running the Rcmdr
under rterm.exe rather than under rgui.exe seems to provide much better
stability. This is a reasonable solution for me since my intro stats
students interact with R only through the Rcmdr GUI. 

I'm hopeful that tcltk will run more stably on Windows under R 2.0.1 with
the console provided by rgui.exe.

Regards,
 John

--------------------------------
John Fox
Department of Sociology
McMaster University
Hamilton, Ontario
Canada L8S 4M4
905-525-9140x23604
http://socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: r-devel-bounces@stat.math.ethz.ch 
> [mailto:r-devel-bounces@stat.math.ethz.ch] On Behalf Of Thomas Ruf
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 8:38 AM
> To: r-devel@stat.math.ethz.ch
> Subject: problem with tcltk under Windows (was [Rd] RE: [R] 
> onemore Rcmdrproblem)
> 
> Dear all,
> I'd like to use Rcmdr for teaching purposes but still have 
> problems trying to use it under Windows XP. Everything works 
> fine up to several minutes but then Rcmdr and R completely 
> crash the second I hit a button or key. This indeed looks 
> like a problem with tcltk. It is not any particular button or 
> key that causes the crash, but using Ctrl+C to copy something 
> to the clipboard seem the most 'reliable' cause. I tried this 
> on 4 different PCs all under Windows XP (home or prof.), SP1. 
> I did download and reinstall R 2.0.0, RCmdr and required 
> packages on Nov. 1, 2004, but that didn't help either. Are 
> there any new insights into these problems?
> 
> Best regards,
> Thomas
> 
> --
> Thomas Ruf
> Institute of Wildlife Ecology
> University of Veterinary Medicine
> Vienna, Austria
> Tel.: *43 1 4890915 150
> Fax:  *43 1 4890915 550
> http://www.fiwi.at/
> 
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