Thought I''d mention an interesting installer I ran into. vruby has its own GUI installer--ok it''s pretty simple but it looks nice. If anybody wants to try it here''s my fork of the svn branch so that it works with 1.9 (unfortunately for 1.8.x you''ll need to install a version older than the one there). You install swin, then vruby (which uses swin) http://github.com/rogerdpack/visualuruby_here/tree/master Just thought I''d mention it since it was interesting. -=r