Hi everybody, after looking a bit around the Internet and checking which website style some users of webgen are using, I found that many people just stay at the default webgen website style (which is not really pretty ;-) So, I''m thinking about changing the default webgen website style to something more Web-2.0-ish, and I would like to know if there is a particular website style (either currently included with webgen or any other free website template) you would like to have as the default website style! Thanks! Regards, Thomas
Jeremy Hinegardner
2007-Jun-26 16:18 UTC
[webgen-users] Poll for new default website style
On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 02:25:12PM +0200, Thomas Leitner wrote:> Hi everybody, > > after looking a bit around the Internet and checking which website > style some users of webgen are using, I found that many people just > stay at the default webgen website style (which is not really pretty ;-)Well, I''ll have to agree on the ''not-really-pretty'' thing. If it makes you feel better I''ve never used the default webgen website style. I''ve always gone through openwebdesign.org or similar.> So, I''m thinking about changing the default webgen website style to > something more Web-2.0-ish, and I would like to know if there is a > particular website style (either currently included with webgen or > any other free website template) you would like to have as the > default website style! Thanks!Personally I like the styleshout themes, they are also on openwebdesign.org and owsd.org, creative commons attribution 2.5 lincensed. http://www.styleshout.com/free-templates.php AzulMedia - http://www.styleshout.com/templates/preview/Azulmedia2-1/index.html EliteCircle - http://www.styleshout.com/templates/preview/EliteCircle1-0/index.html Either of those might be good fits for webgen, Tweak the colours as you see fit. Just my $.02 enjoy, -jeremy -- ======================================================================= Jeremy Hinegardner jeremy at hinegardner.org
>> So, I''m thinking about changing the default webgen website style to >> something more Web-2.0-ish, and I would like to know if there is a >> particular website style (either currently included with webgen or >> any other free website template) you would like to have as the >> default website style! Thanks! > > Personally I like the styleshout themes, they are also on > openwebdesign.org and owsd.org, creative commons attribution 2.5 > lincensed. > > http://www.styleshout.com/free-templates.php > > AzulMedia - http://www.styleshout.com/templates/preview/ > Azulmedia2-1/index.html > EliteCircle - http://www.styleshout.com/templates/preview/ > EliteCircle1-0/index.html > > Either of those might be good fits for webgen, Tweak the colours as > you > see fit.The problem with website styles under the CCA2.5 license is that this license is incompatible with GPL and therefore I cannot ship them with weben. Or is there a way that I can use GPL and allow website styles to use CCA2.5? Aside from that: thanks for the links, I have already seen some styleshout themes before but didn''t have time to convert them for use with webgen. They look great, especially AzulMedia (I like blue ;-) Thanks for the suggestions! Bye, Thomas
On 6/27/07, Thomas Leitner <t_leitner at gmx.at> wrote:> > > > Personally I like the styleshout themes, they are also on > > openwebdesign.org and owsd.org, creative commons attribution 2.5 > > lincensed. > > The problem with website styles under the CCA2.5 license is that this > license is incompatible with GPL and therefore I cannot ship them > with weben. Or is there a way that I can use GPL and allow website > styles to use CCA2.5?I am not a lawyer, but I think that you can package in the same .gem or .zip *code* and *data* that have different licenses. Just explain this clearly: "Code is (C) XXX XXX, released under the GPL" "Website styles are (C) YYY YYY , released under the CC license" -- Andrea Censi "Life is too important to be taken seriously" (Oscar Wilde) Web: http://www.dis.uniroma1.it/~censi
On 27.06.2007, at 11:39, Andrea Censi wrote:> On 6/27/07, Thomas Leitner <t_leitner at gmx.at> wrote: >>> >>> Personally I like the styleshout themes, they are also on >>> openwebdesign.org and owsd.org, creative commons attribution 2.5 >>> lincensed. >> >> The problem with website styles under the CCA2.5 license is that this >> license is incompatible with GPL and therefore I cannot ship them >> with weben. Or is there a way that I can use GPL and allow website >> styles to use CCA2.5? > > I am not a lawyer, > but I think that you can package in the same .gem or .zip *code* and > *data* that have different licenses. Just explain this clearly: > > "Code is (C) XXX XXX, released under the GPL" > "Website styles are (C) YYY YYY , released under the CC license"This sound reasonable. However, Arnaud Cornet once filed a bug because I shipped a website style with a CC license with webgen, here is one message from him: ------------------------------------------------------- Date: 2007-03-28 05:44 Sender: Arnaud Cornet Thanks for the fix. The "plain" website style has an GPL-incompatible license. webgen and it''s template clearly constitute a single work. This work carries GPL code and it is the GPL that forbids distribution of GPL along with non GPL compatible code. So yes it is a licensing error per se to distribute webgen as is. Regards, -- Arnaud Cornet ------------------------------------------------------- I don''t know if adding a statement like you suggested is able to fix this. I will contact Arnaud and ask him in case he doesn''t read this ML. Bye, Thomas -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/webgen-users/attachments/20070627/b3ef1f71/attachment.html
Jeremy Hinegardner
2007-Jun-27 15:11 UTC
[webgen-users] Poll for new default website style
On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 02:18:17PM +0200, Thomas Leitner wrote:> On 27.06.2007, at 11:39, Andrea Censi wrote: > >On 6/27/07, Thomas Leitner <t_leitner at gmx.at> wrote: > >>> > >>>Personally I like the styleshout themes, they are also on > >>>openwebdesign.org and owsd.org, creative commons attribution 2.5 > >>>lincensed. > >> > >>The problem with website styles under the CCA2.5 license is that this > >>license is incompatible with GPL and therefore I cannot ship them > >>with weben. Or is there a way that I can use GPL and allow website > >>styles to use CCA2.5? > > > >I am not a lawyer, > >but I think that you can package in the same .gem or .zip *code* and > >*data* that have different licenses. Just explain this clearly: > > > > "Code is (C) XXX XXX, released under the GPL" > > "Website styles are (C) YYY YYY , released under the CC license" > > This sound reasonable. However, Arnaud Cornet once filed a bug > because I shipped a website style with a CC license with webgen, here > is one message from him: > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Date: 2007-03-28 05:44 > Sender: Arnaud Cornet > > Thanks for the fix. > > The "plain" website style has an GPL-incompatible license. > webgen and it''s template clearly constitute a single work. This > work carries GPL code and it is the GPL that forbids distribution > of GPL along with non GPL compatible code. > > So yes it is a licensing error per se to distribute webgen as > is. > > Regards, > -- > Arnaud Cornet > ------------------------------------------------------- > > I don''t know if adding a statement like you suggested is able to fix > this. I will contact Arnaud and ask him in case he doesn''t read this ML.Or to completely work around the issue, have a separate ''content-only'' gem. Not that I''m an advocate of that. Templates as a separately distributable plugin in your new plugin framework? To me Andrea''s suggestion is completely reasonable. enjoy, -jeremy -- ======================================================================= Jeremy Hinegardner jeremy at hinegardner.org
On 27.06.2007, at 17:11, Jeremy Hinegardner wrote:> On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 02:18:17PM +0200, Thomas Leitner wrote: >> On 27.06.2007, at 11:39, Andrea Censi wrote: >>> On 6/27/07, Thomas Leitner <t_leitner at gmx.at> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Personally I like the styleshout themes, they are also on >>>>> openwebdesign.org and owsd.org, creative commons attribution 2.5 >>>>> lincensed. >>>> >>>> The problem with website styles under the CCA2.5 license is that >>>> this >>>> license is incompatible with GPL and therefore I cannot ship them >>>> with weben. Or is there a way that I can use GPL and allow website >>>> styles to use CCA2.5? >>> >>> I am not a lawyer, >>> but I think that you can package in the same .gem or .zip *code* >>> and >>> *data* that have different licenses. Just explain this clearly: >>> >>> "Code is (C) XXX XXX, released under the GPL" >>> "Website styles are (C) YYY YYY , released under the CC license" >> >> This sound reasonable. However, Arnaud Cornet once filed a bug >> because I shipped a website style with a CC license with webgen, here >> is one message from him: >> <snip /> >> I don''t know if adding a statement like you suggested is able to fix >> this. I will contact Arnaud and ask him in case he doesn''t read >> this ML. > > Or to completely work around the issue, have a separate ''content-only'' > gem. Not that I''m an advocate of that. Templates as a separately > distributable plugin in your new plugin framework?I had a short mail exchange with Arnaud Cornet and he pointed out out that making an exception to the GPL as proposed by Andrea Censi can be done. This will allow me to include website styles under a CC license in the webgen distribution. :-) So, if you have any other suggestions for website styles: keep them coming! ;-) -- Thomas