Hello, This is just my suggestion. Netbeans 6.5 shall support (1)Ruby (2) JRuby (3) Python and (4) Php. These are all open source projects(languages) and so is IronRuby. I understand Sun and Microsoft are rivals, but IronRuby is an open source project and i dont see any comeptition in this case. If Sun does not hate PHP, it should not hate IronRuby too. Currently i am working on Ruby On Rails, with JVM and Netbeans 6.1 and Jruby 1.1 on my XP machine and everything seems to be working smoothly. I think rather than waiting for another IDE to emerge, it would be nice if some support for IronRuby is added to Netbeans and let the OSS Community cheerup with IronRuby as the 5th option. Since 4 popular languages are already there i don''t see any reason why IronRuby should be neglected. Thanks. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Isn''t that just a matter of telling netbeans which ruby interpreter you want to use along with some other parameters. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 1:09 PM, Web Reservoir <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:> Hello, > > This is just my suggestion. > > Netbeans 6.5 shall support (1)Ruby (2) JRuby (3) Python and (4) Php. > > These are all open source projects(languages) and so is IronRuby. > > I understand Sun and Microsoft are rivals, but IronRuby is an open > source project and i dont see any comeptition in this case. If Sun does > not hate PHP, it should not hate IronRuby too. > > Currently i am working on Ruby On Rails, with JVM and Netbeans 6.1 and > Jruby 1.1 on my XP machine and everything seems to be working smoothly. > I think rather than waiting for another IDE to emerge, it would be nice > if some support for IronRuby is added to Netbeans and let the OSS > Community cheerup with IronRuby as the 5th option. > > Since 4 popular languages are already there i don''t see any reason why > IronRuby should be neglected. > > Thanks. > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > _______________________________________________ > Ironruby-core mailing list > Ironruby-core at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ironruby-core >-- Met vriendelijke groeten - Best regards - Salutations Ivan Porto Carrero GSM: +32.486.787.582 Blog: http://flanders.co.nz Twitter: http://twitter.com/casualjim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/ironruby-core/attachments/20080822/3da424ee/attachment.html>
Hello, Let me make it clear... I am talking about IronRuby on Rails on Netbeans. I am not asking Netbeans to support Asp.Net MVC, as some might find confusing. Thanks -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Exactly what I was taking about. In netbeans go into Tools - Ruby Platforms . You can''t at the moment but when there will be full gem support I don''t see how IronRuby couldn''t be used with netbeans as is. Netbeans works with ruby but it has no special hooks in ruby or jruby for that matter AFAIK On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Web Reservoir <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:> Hello, > > Let me make it clear... > > I am talking about IronRuby on Rails on Netbeans. > > I am not asking Netbeans to support Asp.Net MVC, as some might find > confusing. > > Thanks > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > _______________________________________________ > Ironruby-core mailing list > Ironruby-core at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ironruby-core >-- Met vriendelijke groeten - Best regards - Salutations Ivan Porto Carrero GSM: +32.486.787.582 Blog: http://flanders.co.nz Twitter: http://twitter.com/casualjim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/ironruby-core/attachments/20080822/4d00a9e1/attachment.html>
Our experience with IronRuby and JRuby support in Ruby In Steel has been that the main ''problem areas'' are debugging (JRuby) and Visual design (IronRuby) as these require some degree of direct ''contact'' with the specific Ruby implementation. Other features such as editing and project management are not implementation dependent. I would imagine the same would be true for Netbeans. Supporting code-completion/IntelliSense on the .NET side of the equation is also a potential problem. best wishes Huw SapphireSteel Software Ruby and Rails In Visual Studio http://www.sapphiresteel.com -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Web Reservoir wrote:> Hello, > > Let me make it clear... > > I am talking about IronRuby on Rails on Netbeans. > > I am not asking Netbeans to support Asp.Net MVC, as some might find > confusing. > > ThanksWould anyone use IronRuby within ASP.NET MVC? The Ruby MVC frameworks are much more elegant taking advantage of dynamic nature of Ruby. ASP.NET MVC would be a downgrade. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Mario Gutierrez writes:> Would anyone use IronRuby within ASP.NET MVC? The Ruby MVC frameworks > are much more elegant taking advantage of dynamic nature of Ruby. > ASP.NET MVC would be a downgrade.There are at least two good reasons someone might want to use IronRuby with ASP.NET MVC. The first is that you may be in an environment where IIS and/or ASP.NET is mandated but still want the flexibility of a dynamic language. The second is performance. With IronRuby, it''s possible to run multiple ScriptRuntimes within a single process, giving a reasonable amount of isolation within a single process. The level of isolation can be increased further by running in multiple AppDomains. In contrast, Rails targets an environment where the expectation is that isolation will be achieved by running in separate processes -- and there''s a performance cost for that. It remains to be seen how much of this is mitigated by the recent work done to add thread-safety to Rails 2.2. The flip side of this is that there''s a good deal of work that needs to be done before any of this is a reality. -- Curt Hagenlocher curth at microsoft.com
Here''s a more interesting question: do you care what language Rails is implemented in as long as you wrote your Rails app in Ruby? Thanks, -John> -----Original Message----- > From: ironruby-core-bounces at rubyforge.org [mailto:ironruby-core- > bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Mario Gutierrez > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:51 AM > To: ironruby-core at rubyforge.org > Subject: Re: [Ironruby-core] IronRuby on Netbeans > > Web Reservoir wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Let me make it clear... > > > > I am talking about IronRuby on Rails on Netbeans. > > > > I am not asking Netbeans to support Asp.Net MVC, as some might find > > confusing. > > > > Thanks > > Would anyone use IronRuby within ASP.NET MVC? The Ruby MVC frameworks > are much more elegant taking advantage of dynamic nature of Ruby. > ASP.NET MVC would be a downgrade. > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > _______________________________________________ > Ironruby-core mailing list > Ironruby-core at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ironruby-core
John Lam (IRONRUBY) wrote:> Here''s a more interesting question: do you care what language Rails is > implemented in as long as you wrote your Rails app in Ruby? > > Thanks, > -JohnI agree 100%. As long as it is Rails and (Iron)Ruby who cares what VM it is on? My point is ASP.NET MVC != Rails. I do not want to use IronRuby in ASP.NET MVC, I want to use IronRuby + Rails on IIS/ASP.NET. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
> Here''s a more interesting question: do you care what language Rails is > implemented in as long as you wrote your Rails app in Ruby?Interesting. No, so long as monkey patching still works (plugins). Andrew.
The answer depends on what libraries I want to use really. If there''s a Java library I want to leverage, then I''ll use JRuby. If there''s a .NET library it''d be IronRuby.. If it''s just Ruby libraries, then I shouldn''t care. (C extensions not withstanding). On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 12:27 PM, John Lam (IRONRUBY) <jflam at microsoft.com>wrote:> Here''s a more interesting question: do you care what language Rails is > implemented in as long as you wrote your Rails app in Ruby? > > Thanks, > -John > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ironruby-core-bounces at rubyforge.org [mailto:ironruby-core- > > bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Mario Gutierrez > > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:51 AM > > To: ironruby-core at rubyforge.org > > Subject: Re: [Ironruby-core] IronRuby on Netbeans > > > > Web Reservoir wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > Let me make it clear... > > > > > > I am talking about IronRuby on Rails on Netbeans. > > > > > > I am not asking Netbeans to support Asp.Net MVC, as some might find > > > confusing. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Would anyone use IronRuby within ASP.NET MVC? The Ruby MVC frameworks > > are much more elegant taking advantage of dynamic nature of Ruby. > > ASP.NET MVC would be a downgrade. > > -- > > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > _______________________________________________ > > Ironruby-core mailing list > > Ironruby-core at rubyforge.org > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ironruby-core > > _______________________________________________ > Ironruby-core mailing list > Ironruby-core at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ironruby-core >-- Michael Letterle [Polymath Prokrammer] http://blog.prokrams.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/ironruby-core/attachments/20080828/040ef94b/attachment-0001.html>
Ditto. A huge deal for my company at least is imagemagick/rmagick and memcache. Probably memcache being the single most important one. Hopefully it won''t prove difficult to port to .net On 29/08/2008, at 12:57 AM, "Michael Letterle" <michael.letterle at gmail.com > wrote:> The answer depends on what libraries I want to use really. If > there''s a Java library I want to leverage, then I''ll use JRuby. If > there''s a .NET library it''d be IronRuby.. If it''s just Ruby > libraries, then I shouldn''t care. (C extensions not withstanding). > > On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 12:27 PM, John Lam (IRONRUBY) <jflam at microsoft.com > > wrote: > Here''s a more interesting question: do you care what language Rails > is implemented in as long as you wrote your Rails app in Ruby? > > Thanks, > -John-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/ironruby-core/attachments/20080829/ece67d7c/attachment.html>