Instiki users - Oct 2005 - [Instiki] linking to document fragments - Textile documentati on

> Then, snooping around in the Textile sandbox, of all places - because, as
> what looks like the richest schema I simply couldn''t believe that
it
> didn''t address this document fragment linking issue artfully,
somehow, I
> found that someone had set up just the kind of link I was looking for. I
> confirmed that this was the solution I was seeking, and was finally at
> peace with this issue.
> 
> NOW, why in !@$#@! is this not addressed somewhere in some documentation?
> Intelligent people doing serious writing for the web NEED reference notes.
>
 
Do you mean footnotes?  This page, entitled "Textile Reference" talks
about
footnotes.

     http://hobix.com/textile/
> I would be happy to document this piece of Textile myself, but...I
don''t
> immediately see anywhere that this is possible.
> 
> Any solution to this?
> 
> Could someone just Take Care Of It?
> 
> -- t.
> 
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LMHC
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Thank you, but no. Footnotes are not quite document fragment links, as I  
point out in the documentation that I place here:

http://instiki.org/show/Textile

But thanks anyway. The footnote thing is nice, though.

t.

On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 07:28:05 -0700, Thiesfeld, Gordon  
<GThiesfeld at emdeon.com> wrote:
>> Then, snooping around in the Textile sandbox, of all places - because,
>> as
>> what looks like the richest schema I simply couldn''t believe
that it
>> didn''t address this document fragment linking issue artfully,
somehow, I
>> found that someone had set up just the kind of link I was looking for.
I
>> confirmed that this was the solution I was seeking, and was finally at
>> peace with this issue.
>>
>> NOW, why in !@$#@! is this not addressed somewhere in some  
>> documentation?
>> Intelligent people doing serious writing for the web NEED reference  
>> notes.
>>
>
> Do you mean footnotes?  This page, entitled "Textile Reference"
talks
> about
> footnotes.
>
>      http://hobix.com/textile/
>
>> I would be happy to document this piece of Textile myself, but...I
don''t
>> immediately see anywhere that this is possible.
>>
>> Any solution to this?
>>
>> Could someone just Take Care Of It?
>>
>> -- t.
>>
>> =====================================================>> Tom
Cloyd, MS MA, LMHC
>> Private practice Psychotherapist
>> Bellingham, Washington, U.S.A: (360) 920-1226
>> << BestMindHealth.com / tc at bestmindhealth.com >>
>> =====================================================>>
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On Wednesday 12 October 2005 12:23 pm, Tom Cloyd wrote:
> Thank you, but no. Footnotes are not quite document fragment links, as I
> point out in the documentation that I place here:
>
> http://instiki.org/show/Textile
>
> But thanks anyway. The footnote thing is nice, though.
Many people refer to what you''ve done on that page as an anchor.  You
might
find some documentation if you Google for anchor and Instiki or Textile.

BTW, is the terminology "document fragment" (in this context)
something you''ve
run across, or something you''ve invented?  (I never heard it in this
context
before.)

regards,
Randy Kramer

Re: the term "document fragment" - I use it after some careful
consideration.

First, it comes from Jennifer Niederst''s fine book "Web Design in
a
Nutshell" (O''Reilly), a book I consult often. I use the term
exactly (I
hope!) as she does.

Knowing that it''s not a common term, I thought about inventing
something
that might be more immediately clear in meaning, but failed to think of
anything.

I surely agree that linking to a document fragment involves what in HTML
we would call a link anchor, but the terms in that linguistic domain are a
mess. The anchor tag <a> includes both link source and link target. And
anything else you can stick in the anchor tag. I need a more precise term
- something that points to only one thing.

I want to link part of a document to another, just like we more commonly
link one web page to another. "Document fragment" seems to work as a
label, here. I just wish it was more obvious what it''s naming.

As for Googling for documentation - I did Google for "Textile" and
"link"
and didn''t find what I was seeking. And it certainly doesn''t
appear to be
documented at the Textile home site. I shouldn''t have to go so far
afield
to get so fundamental a question answered, anyway, I think. If we can
document footnotes - a rather unusual markup functionality, we surely
ought first to have documented document fragment linking, a set of which
footnote linking is a member.

That has been my thinking.

I will say that at this point I''m completely satisfied with the markup
functionality I have at my fingertips, with Textile in Instiki.

- t.

On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 12:09:13 -0700, Randy Kramer <rhkramer at gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Wednesday 12 October 2005 12:23 pm, Tom Cloyd wrote:
>> Thank you, but no. Footnotes are not quite document fragment links, as
I
>> point out in the documentation that I place here:
>>
>> http://instiki.org/show/Textile
>>
>> But thanks anyway. The footnote thing is nice, though.
>
> Many people refer to what you''ve done on that page as an anchor. 
You
> might
> find some documentation if you Google for anchor and Instiki or Textile.
>
> BTW, is the terminology "document fragment" (in this context)
something
> you''ve
> run across, or something you''ve invented?  (I never heard it in
this
> context
> before.)
>
> regards,
> Randy Kramer


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