Howdy... After not having much success with the hptmv driver for highpoint's rocketraid 1820A, I'm wondering if other folks have had good luck with any SATA RAID cards with at least 6 ports... Is there a SATA RAID card with utilities that let you manage while the OS is running that folks have had good luck with? I've been happy with the megaraid series on linux at my job, but I'm wondering if the management utilities are there on freebsd, etc. Thanks in advance... Brian Szymanski Software and Systems Developer Media Matters for America ski@mediamatters.org
Mornin'> After not having much success with the hptmv driver for highpoint's > rocketraid 1820A, I'm wondering if other folks have had good luck with any > SATA RAID cards with at least 6 ports... Is there a SATA RAID card with > utilities that let you manage while the OS is running that folks have had > good luck with? I've been happy with the megaraid series on linux at my > job, but I'm wondering if the management utilities are there on freebsd, > etc.http://www.icp-vortex.com/english/product/pci/rz_sata_8/8586rz_e.htm Expensive? Yes. Fast, reliable, cheap - pick any two ;-) HTH, Patrick -- punkt.de GmbH Internet - Dienstleistungen - Beratung Vorholzstr. 25 Tel. 0721 9109 -0 Fax: -100 76137 Karlsruhe http://punkt.de
On Friday 10 March 2006 19:31, Brian Szymanski wrote:> After not having much success with the hptmv driver for highpoint's > rocketraid 1820A, I'm wondering if other folks have had good luck with any > SATA RAID cards with at least 6 ports... Is there a SATA RAID card with > utilities that let you manage while the OS is running that folks have had > good luck with? I've been happy with the megaraid series on linux at my > job, but I'm wondering if the management utilities are there on freebsd, > etc.I believe most Promise hardware is supported. I use a "Promise PDC20378 SATA150 controller" built into my motherboard for RAID1 and it works perfectly. The only problem can be mapping the name to the PDC number although you should be able to find it if you dig in the data sheet. I believe the chip I am using is in the "FastTrak S150 TX2plus" - it has 2 SATA ports and a PATA port (which matches the motherboard) -- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/attachments/20060310/54714edb/attachment-0001.bin
Brian Szymanski said the following on 03/10/06 01:01:> Howdy... > > After not having much success with the hptmv driver for highpoint's > rocketraid 1820A, I'm wondering if other folks have had good luck with any > SATA RAID cards with at least 6 ports... Is there a SATA RAID card with > utilities that let you manage while the OS is running that folks have had > good luck with? I've been happy with the megaraid series on linux at my > job, but I'm wondering if the management utilities are there on freebsd, > etc. >3ware. Regards, Atanas
At 04:01 AM 10/03/2006, Brian Szymanski wrote:>Howdy... > >After not having much success with the hptmv driver for highpoint's >rocketraid 1820A, I'm wondering if other folks have had good luck with any >SATA RAID cards with at least 6 ports... Is there a SATA RAID card with >utilities that let you manage while the OS is running that folks have had >good luck with? I've been happy with the megaraid series on linux at my >job, but I'm wondering if the management utilities are there on freebsd, >etc.The 3Ware cards work really well under FreeBSD. I have dozens I have been using for some time and they work and work well. Highly recommended. Over the years I am sure I have replaced a few dozen dead drives and have not (knock on wood) had any issues rebuilding degraded sets. Another card I have been recently using is the ARECA. Its quite a fast card and has a similar set of management utilities. I have not been using it as long as the 3ware, but it seems pretty good too. Both cards will install out of the box FreeBSD. The management apps can be downloaded for free from www.3ware.com and ftp.areca.com.tw ---Mike
I use a Hightpoint Rocketraid 1640 under FreeBSD 5 and 6 an had no problems
with it, works like a dream, I have 3 x 250GB Maxtor drives attached to it in
RAID 5 configuration. Highpoint provide the
drive
I did have a problem with the driver when I upgraded from of 5.x to
another, but I hasled Highpoint and they released a driver. Have you tried
hasling their technical support bods? I have f ound them very good :-)
Thanks Adam
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On Fri, March 10, 2006 1:01 am, Brian Szymanski wrote:> After not having much success with the hptmv driver for highpoint's > rocketraid 1820A, I'm wondering if other folks have had good luck > with any SATA RAID cards with at least 6 ports... Is there a SATA > RAID card with utilities that let you manage while the OS is running > that folks have had good luck with? I've been happy with the megaraid > series on linux at my job, but I'm wondering if the management > utilities are there on freebsd, etc.We've had great successes with the 3Ware Escalade line of RAID controllers. The 3DM2 web-based management tools are amazing, and I've heard good things about the CLI version. We've got FreeBSD 5.3, 5.4, and 6.0 boxes (32-bit and 64-bit) running (or testing) the 7506-4LP (PATA), 9500S (SATA using bridge chips), and 9550SX (true SATA). Haven't run any speed benchmarks (we're more concerned with reliability, rebuild speed, and management tools) but the performance is a lot better than when we used LSI MegaRAID 150-6D cards (those things are crap, especially the management "tools"). The 7000 and 8000-series Escalade cards use the twe(4) driver in FreeBSD 4.11+, 9000 and 9500-series cards use the twa(4) driver in FreeBSD 5.2+, and the 9550-series cards use the twa(4) driver in FreeBSD 6.0+. I've also heard good things about the Areca RAID controllers, although we have not used any. ---- Freddie Cash fcash@ocis.net
What problems are you having there Brian, Im currently in contact with
the Highpoint developers over a specific issue with that card's drivers
and would be happy to raise any other issues you may be seeing.
Aside from the that we have had good experiences with Areca card.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Szymanski"
<ski@mediamatters.org>>
> After not having much success with the hptmv driver for highpoint's
> rocketraid 1820A, I'm wondering if other folks have had good luck with
any
> SATA RAID cards with at least 6 ports... Is there a SATA RAID card with
> utilities that let you manage while the OS is running that folks have had
> good luck with? I've been happy with the megaraid series on linux at my
> job, but I'm wondering if the management utilities are there on
freebsd,
> etc
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Similar error but not quite the same. When I have more info I'll let you
know.
Steve
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>I sent an email to highpoint tech support detailing the problems, and have
> had no response after an initial ping :( ... Here is a summary of what I
> sent them:
>
> For all tests, I ran bonnie++ over and over again while concurrently
> copying the contents of /usr to the mounted disk, then rm -rf'ing
> repeatedly.
>
> I tried two configurations with 2 200G drives, one RAID-0, one RAID-1.
>
> In raid-0 mode, the kernel error was:
> IAL: COMPLETION ERROR, adapter 0, channel 1, flags=104
> ATA regs: error 40, sector count 20, LBA low 5f, LBA mid 16, LBA high 5f,
> device 4c, status 51
> Reset channel
> IAL: COMPLETION ERROR, adapter 0, channel 1, flags=104
> ATA regs: error 40, sector count 20, LBA low 5f, LBA mid 16, LBA high 5f,
> device 4c, status 51
> Reset channel
> ...
> hptmv: Device removed: controller 1 channel 1
> (da0:hptmv0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x39, scsi status
> == 0x0
> Opened disk da0 -> 5
> Opened disk da0 -> 5
> ...
>
> At this point any attempts to access any mounted files or the raw device
> die with an io error.
>
> In raid-1 mode, I got a panic:
> Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
> fault virtual address = 0x400
> fault code = supervisor read, page not present
> instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc073646c
> stack pointer = 0x10:0xe4e05ba4
> frame pointer = 0x10:0xe4e05bf0
> code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b
> - DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
> processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
> current process = 3 (g_up)
> trap number = 12
> panic: page fault
>
> I later tried a RAID-5 array, and doing the same basic stress testing, the
> machine would panic after between 3-6 hours. I didn't record the error
> message, but it was something about freeing an already free page.
>
> I upgraded the BIOS to version 1.17c from the 1.13 that was on the cards
> when they shipped. This seemed to improve things, but did not eliminate
> the problems. I tried fbsd 5.4 and 6.0, with both a custom kernel and
> GENERIC versions. Never was I able to stress test for more than about 8-10
> hours without a panic or the device becoming inaccessible.
>
> Of course, there is also the lack of management utilities while the OS is
> running which has me looking elsewhere.
>
> I'd be willing to try further tests if folks have patches or other
ideas -
> I have a couple more weeks before I have to RMA the suckers, and am
> willing to do testing if someone wants to make a patch...
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I sent an email to highpoint tech support detailing the problems, and have had no response after an initial ping :( ... Here is a summary of what I sent them: For all tests, I ran bonnie++ over and over again while concurrently copying the contents of /usr to the mounted disk, then rm -rf'ing repeatedly. I tried two configurations with 2 200G drives, one RAID-0, one RAID-1. In raid-0 mode, the kernel error was: IAL: COMPLETION ERROR, adapter 0, channel 1, flags=104 ATA regs: error 40, sector count 20, LBA low 5f, LBA mid 16, LBA high 5f, device 4c, status 51 Reset channel IAL: COMPLETION ERROR, adapter 0, channel 1, flags=104 ATA regs: error 40, sector count 20, LBA low 5f, LBA mid 16, LBA high 5f, device 4c, status 51 Reset channel ... hptmv: Device removed: controller 1 channel 1 (da0:hptmv0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x39, scsi status == 0x0 Opened disk da0 -> 5 Opened disk da0 -> 5 ... At this point any attempts to access any mounted files or the raw device die with an io error. In raid-1 mode, I got a panic: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x400 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc073646c stack pointer = 0x10:0xe4e05ba4 frame pointer = 0x10:0xe4e05bf0 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b - DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 3 (g_up) trap number = 12 panic: page fault I later tried a RAID-5 array, and doing the same basic stress testing, the machine would panic after between 3-6 hours. I didn't record the error message, but it was something about freeing an already free page. I upgraded the BIOS to version 1.17c from the 1.13 that was on the cards when they shipped. This seemed to improve things, but did not eliminate the problems. I tried fbsd 5.4 and 6.0, with both a custom kernel and GENERIC versions. Never was I able to stress test for more than about 8-10 hours without a panic or the device becoming inaccessible. Of course, there is also the lack of management utilities while the OS is running which has me looking elsewhere. I'd be willing to try further tests if folks have patches or other ideas - I have a couple more weeks before I have to RMA the suckers, and am willing to do testing if someone wants to make a patch... Cheers, B> Interested to hear that you have a problem with your highpoint driver,what sort of problems are you seeing?> > On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 12:30 +0000, Steven Hartland wrote: >> What problems are you having there Brian, Im currently in contact withthe Highpoint developers over a specific issue with that card's drivers and would be happy to raise any other issues you may be seeing.>> >> Aside from the that we have had good experiences with Areca card. >> >> Steve >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Brian Szymanski" <ski@mediamatters.org> >> > >> > After not having much success with the hptmv driver for highpoint'srocketraid 1820A, I'm wondering if other folks have had good luck with>> any >> > SATA RAID cards with at least 6 ports... Is there a SATA RAID card >> with >> > utilities that let you manage while the OS is running that folks have >> had >> > good luck with? I've been happy with the megaraid series on linux at >> my >> > job, but I'm wondering if the management utilities are there on >> freebsd, >> > etc >> >> >> ===============================================>> This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. andthe person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of>> misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printingor otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it.>> >> In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmissionplease telephone (023) 8024 3137>> or return the E.mail to postmaster@multiplay.co.uk. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >Brian Szymanski Software and Systems Developer Media Matters for America ski@mediamatters.org
On 3/10/06, Brian Szymanski <ski@mediamatters.org> wrote:> Howdy... > > After not having much success with the hptmv driver for highpoint's > rocketraid 1820A, I'm wondering if other folks have had good luck with any > SATA RAID cards with at least 6 ports... Is there a SATA RAID card with > utilities that let you manage while the OS is running that folks have had > good luck with? I've been happy with the megaraid series on linux at my > job, but I'm wondering if the management utilities are there on freebsd, > etc. >Anyone care to comment on Areca's ARC-11xx PCI-X cards? I'm thinking about getting an 1130 (12-port version). *Is the arcmsr driver in FreeBSD stable? *Any issues with arrays larger then 2TB? *Rebuild times? *Command Line management software? *Is the company BSD friendly, no binary blob object in the driver? *Competent tech support? *What does the ethernet port on the ARC-1130 do? I'm primarily interested in this card because it can do RAID level 6 and based on the benchmarks I've seen it's a top performer. Anyhow, to the OP, stay way from promise cards. -- BSD Podcasts @ http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/
>Anyone care to comment on Areca's ARC-11xx PCI-X cards? I'm >?thinking about getting an 1130 (12-port version).We just installed an ARC-1160 so I'll try and answer as many of your questions that I can.>*Is the arcmsr driver in FreeBSD stable?I've had no issues.>*Any issues with arrays larger then 2TB?I think Areca does things a little differently than some of the other cards (someone correct me if I'm wrong on this.) Basically you setup a RAID set, which is just a set of disks. Then you setup volumes in that RAID set. The volumes are where you define RAID level and Ch/Id/Lun for access under an OS. The cards can handle volumes > 2TB without a problem and supports both ways (Windows and LBA) of handling the volumes. We currently have a 3.6TB volume (11 400GB drives under RAID 6) available under FreeBSD 6-STABLE with no real problems other than the gotchas that are known basically. Here's the page on FreeBSD's website about that: http://www.freebsd.org/projects/bigdisk/index.html>*Rebuild times?Can't give you an exact since it's been a while since I tested the original rebuild, but we've migrated the RAID set (and volume) twice since getting the system and the migrations happened within hours. I was able to expand the RAID Set (adding drives) and expand the corresponding volume set to fill the drives all while the system was running without a hitch.>*Command Line management software?Haven't played with the CLI much yet, but it seems to handle every command you would need to send to the card.>*Is the company BSD friendly, no binary blob object in the driver?Latest driver was built right into the kernel. Updates on Areca's website are in source form.>*Competent tech support?I've only used their support when I originally got an 8 port card. They were very helpful in answering my questions to realize I needed the 16-port to do what I wanted.>*What does the ethernet port on the ARC-1130 do?Out of Band management (telnet and HTTP) directly to the card. The 1130 and above all have the Ethernet and will also do email notifications directly without OS intervention. Eliminates the need to run a daemon under FreeBSD. We've found the HTTP management daemon under FreeBSD to have some problems (Core dumps occasionally), but once we started using the Ethernet port we didn't need to worry about that.>I'm primarily interested in this card because it can >do RAID level 6 and based on the benchmarks I've seen >it's a top performer.Everything has been smooth with the Areca and we are using RAID 6 without any issues. I haven't done major performance tests myself so I can't give you any hard numbers, but we've been very pleased with the system. The problems I had were some initial corruption on our large volumes at the beginning do to a crash (my fault) with a softupdates volume. When trying to fsck the partition it told me I needed over 2.5GB of RAM to fsck the partition. Researching the problem came out with an answer of filesystem corruption that would be fixed easily, so I just reworked our partitions so that I had multiple smaller partitions and removed softupdates for now. I've "crashed" the system a few times since then and fsck worked just fine. Any other questions you have, feel free to ask. Jaime Bozza
>>>*Rebuild times?>>Can't give you an exact since it's been a while since I tested the >>original rebuild, but we've migrated the RAID set (and volume) twice >>since getting the system and the migrations happened within hours. I >>was able to expand the RAID Set (adding drives) and expand the >>corresponding volume set to fill the drives all while the system was >>running without a hitch.>So you increased the size of a file-system on-the-fly?Not a file-system but a volume. I'm partitioning the volume into 800GB chunks for this particular situation. We just did it for the last time, so I have some numbers. Previous Configuration: 11 WD4000YR 400GB drives RAID 6 3600GB volume 4 800GB partitions (using gpt) Remaining 400GB unused Added: 5 WD4000YR 400GB drives Time to Expand RAID set: 12 hours Time to Expand Volume: 56 minutes New Volume: RAID 6 5600GB 7 800GB partitions During the RAID Set Expansion, the Areca fills out the Volume from the 11 drives to the 16 drives, so it's a lot of writing. It basically rewrote all 3600GB of existing data, which accounts for the 12 hours. Expanding the Volume "initializes" the extra space and once it's done FreeBSD sees the "new" larger volume. Areca doesn't touch the first part of the volume when expanding it, so existing data isn't destroyed. Of course, if you modified a volume set to make it smaller, you're mostly out of luck. I didn't have to reboot during any of this process. The most I had to do was unmount the 4 existing volumes so that I had write access to the volume (gpt doesn't allow write access when partitions are mounted), then run gpt recover to recover the secondary partition table at the end of the volume. After that, it was just a simple matter of adding the 3 new partitions and mounting them. The above "Time to Expand Volume" was actually generating RAID 6 parity data for the additional 2 terabytes, so that should give a good idea on the speed of the XOR engine. This was at the maximum of 80% utilization for the background process. I suspect it would have been a little quicker if I restarted and used the BIOS menu to expand (since it would have been a foreground process), but it's nice to be able to keep the system in used while I was running the processes. Jaime Bozza