Hi all I was wondering if either Instiki or i2 are being currently maintained by anyone? I know Alexey has moved on to better things, so has anyone taken over the helm for either project? - Rob
Rob Sanheim wrote:> I was wondering if either Instiki or i2 are being currently maintained > by anyone? I know Alexey has moved on to better things, so has anyone > taken over the helm for either project?To my knowledge, Alexey hasn''t transferred maintainership of Instiki. I don''t believe that he was the active maintainer for i2, and it''s been little discussed here of late, so I can''t speak to that. There are a number of other up-and-coming Ruby/Rails wikis; _why just mentioned a new one (http://junebugwiki.com/) that focuses on the personal wiki space like Instiki did. _why also wrote a script that will import an exported .zip of Instiki pages into Junebug. See the blog entry on this at: http://redhanded.hobix.com/inspect/instikiToJunebug.html -- John
On 1/7/07, John Whitley <whitley at acm.org> wrote:> Rob Sanheim wrote: > > I was wondering if either Instiki or i2 are being currently maintained > > by anyone? I know Alexey has moved on to better things, so has anyone > > taken over the helm for either project? > > To my knowledge, Alexey hasn''t transferred maintainership of > Instiki. I don''t believe that he was the active maintainer for i2, > and it''s been little discussed here of late, so I can''t speak to that. > > There are a number of other up-and-coming Ruby/Rails wikis; _why just > mentioned a new one (http://junebugwiki.com/) that focuses on the > personal wiki space like Instiki did. _why also wrote a script that > will import an exported .zip of Instiki pages into Junebug. See the > blog entry on this at: > > http://redhanded.hobix.com/inspect/instikiToJunebug.html > > -- JohnWould there be interest from anyone here in a fork of i2, with maintenance and updates for Rails 1.2 and beyond? If so holler... I ask because I''m basically doing this anyways to support our local user group wiki. - Rob
On 1/8/07, John Whitley <whitley at acm.org> wrote:> > There are a number of other up-and-coming Ruby/Rails wikis; _why just > mentioned a new one (http://junebugwiki.com/) that focuses on the > personal wiki space like Instiki did. _why also wrote a script that > will import an exported .zip of Instiki pages into Junebug. See the > blog entry on this at: > > http://redhanded.hobix.com/inspect/instikiToJunebug.htmlI''ve recently switched one of my personal Instiki wikis to Junebug - unfortunately before the arrival of _why''s script. The Textile formats are mostly compatible anyway, so for small wikis it''s just a matter of getting them both running and copying/pasting the textile across. The big plus with Junebug is (finally) user authentication, which should cut down on spam for a while. Minuses are its relative (to Instiki) lack of features: no search, no backlinks, no user lists, no multiple wikis etc etc. However, on my Windows machine it seems much faster (even though I had to run it with the -t switch <http://www.junebugwiki.com/JunebugFeedback> due to - possibly - some problem with the daemons gem) and it is quite pretty out of the box. It works flawlessly, as per the instructions, on my Mac. I''ve yet to test if the same Wiki can be run on either a Mac or a PC, but I''ve no reason to believe it can''t (Instiki does, as do most Rails apps). Definitely one to watch. Alan -- B?onn caora dhubh ar an tr?ad is gile. (There are black sheep in the brightest flocks.) <http://halfpie.net/> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/instiki-users/attachments/20070108/1af566e5/attachment.html
I can''t speak for other people and am new to Instiki/Rails/Ruby, but I haven''t had any trouble getting in touch with a developer/maintainer of Instiki. (though it''s not Alexey) I know that some people are currently on vacation and while this isn''t a good excuse for the site not working, given the fact that the project is in a transition period, I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. Hopefully things will get better soon. Johannes On 1/7/07, Alan Macdougall <deasach at gmail.com> wrote:> > On 1/8/07, John Whitley <whitley at acm.org> wrote: > > > > There are a number of other up-and-coming Ruby/Rails wikis; _why just > > mentioned a new one (http://junebugwiki.com/ ) that focuses on the > > personal wiki space like Instiki did. _why also wrote a script that > > will import an exported .zip of Instiki pages into Junebug. See the > > blog entry on this at: > > > > http://redhanded.hobix.com/inspect/instikiToJunebug.html > > > > I''ve recently switched one of my personal Instiki wikis to Junebug - > unfortunately before the arrival of _why''s script. The Textile formats are > mostly compatible anyway, so for small wikis it''s just a matter of getting > them both running and copying/pasting the textile across. > > The big plus with Junebug is (finally) user authentication, which should > cut down on spam for a while. Minuses are its relative (to Instiki) lack of > features: no search, no backlinks, no user lists, no multiple wikis etc etc. > However, on my Windows machine it seems much faster (even though I had to run > it with the -t switch <http://www.junebugwiki.com/JunebugFeedback> due to > - possibly - some problem with the daemons gem) and it is quite pretty out > of the box. It works flawlessly, as per the instructions, on my Mac. I''ve > yet to test if the same Wiki can be run on either a Mac or a PC, but I''ve no > reason to believe it can''t (Instiki does, as do most Rails apps). > > Definitely one to watch. > > Alan > > > -- > B?onn caora dhubh ar an tr?ad is gile. > (There are black sheep in the brightest flocks.) > > < http://halfpie.net/> > _______________________________________________ > Instiki-users mailing list > Instiki-users at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/instiki-users > >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/instiki-users/attachments/20070108/a500699e/attachment.html
Short shameful confession: Given the deadness of Rails wiki software projects, I switched to MoinMoin. mathew
On 1/7/07, Rob Sanheim <rsanheim at gmail.com> wrote:> > > Would there be interest from anyone here in a fork of i2, with > maintenance and updates for Rails 1.2 and beyond? If so holler... > >Yes! Something useful not only for personal use, but intranets too. Junebug is good, but doesn''t have full-text search and is more just for personal use (why not use Tomboy for that? but that''s another discussion). It would be great to have a stellar Rails-powered wiki out there, especially one that''s simple. Folks could use it as a building block, together with apps like Mephisto and Beast, for community-based either public or for intranets. I do wonder though whether Instiki is really the best foundation to build a great Rails wiki on, considering that it''s basically pre-Rails in many ways, was converted from Madeleine to AR. The Instiki.org site is often down, which chips away at my faith in Instiki''s stability. Maybe something from scratch would be more solid and more easily extendible? By the way, where can you even get the code for i2? Or is that the same as the latest instiki release supporting AR? -- "Impossible is nothing." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/instiki-users/attachments/20070108/615a49e1/attachment-0001.html
On 1/8/07, zer0halo <zerohalo at gmail.com> wrote:> > On 1/7/07, Rob Sanheim <rsanheim at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Would there be interest from anyone here in a fork of i2, with > > maintenance and updates for Rails 1.2 and beyond? If so holler... > > > > > > Yes! Something useful not only for personal use, but intranets too. Junebug > is good, but doesn''t have full-text search and is more just for personal use > (why not use Tomboy for that? but that''s another discussion). > > It would be great to have a stellar Rails-powered wiki out there, especially > one that''s simple. Folks could use it as a building block, together with > apps like Mephisto and Beast, for community-based either public or for > intranets. > > I do wonder though whether Instiki is really the best foundation to build a > great Rails wiki on, considering that it''s basically pre-Rails in many ways, > was converted from Madeleine to AR. The Instiki.org site is often down, > which chips away at my faith in Instiki''s stability. Maybe something from > scratch would be more solid and more easily extendible? > > By the way, where can you even get the code for i2? Or is that the same as > the latest instiki release supporting AR?I''m talking about forking and releasing a version of i2 I''ve hacked on. i2 is available here: http://dev.rubyonrails.org/browser/tools/i2/trunk Its around a year old, so of course you don''t see a lot of the newer Rails idioms and there is probably deprecated stuff there, too. I still like i2 a lot, just because the core code is very lean and simple. - Rob
On 1/8/07, Rob Sanheim <rsanheim at gmail.com> wrote:> > > I''m talking about forking and releasing a version of i2 I''ve hacked > on. i2 is available here: > > http://dev.rubyonrails.org/browser/tools/i2/trunkCool. I''d been looking for the code for i2 for ages and could never find it. How do you grab the whole source in one go? Is there an SVN repository somewhere? Its around a year old, so of course you don''t see a lot of the newer> Rails idioms and there is probably deprecated stuff there, too. I > still like i2 a lot, just because the core code is very lean and > simple.Lean and simple is good :-) -- "Impossible is nothing." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/instiki-users/attachments/20070108/2f428099/attachment.html
To me, it sounds like the first thing we need is a patch to resolve the spam issue with Instiki (and hopefully keep it online). Once that is done, the developers will need to figure out where to take instiki. (like the comments regarding i2/mephisto/beast/etc) One thing that I''ve been having problems with is is that though I can download the version 0.11 from sourceforge and run it with no problems, when I use the command svn co http://svn.intiki.org/tags and get the 0.11version, it doesn''t seem to work and I just get a blank page. Has anyone else run into this? This is preventing me from creating a patch of what I''ve done. (and I can''t use the trunk version because it throws an error right now) Thanks, Johannes On 1/8/07, zer0halo <zerohalo at gmail.com> wrote:> > > > On 1/8/07, Rob Sanheim <rsanheim at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > I''m talking about forking and releasing a version of i2 I''ve hacked > > on. i2 is available here: > > > > http://dev.rubyonrails.org/browser/tools/i2/trunk > > > > Cool. I''d been looking for the code for i2 for ages and could never find > it. How do you grab the whole source in one go? Is there an SVN repository > somewhere? > > > Its around a year old, so of course you don''t see a lot of the newer > > Rails idioms and there is probably deprecated stuff there, too. I > > still like i2 a lot, just because the core code is very lean and > > simple. > > > Lean and simple is good :-) > > > > > -- > "Impossible is nothing." > _______________________________________________ > Instiki-users mailing list > Instiki-users at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/instiki-users > >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/instiki-users/attachments/20070109/f827e796/attachment.html