Can this be true? Are they really looking to kill the FreeBSD demon? This borders on sacrilege. http://bsd.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/02/09/1955251&from=rss Tom Veldhouse
On Tuesday 08 February 2005 23:31, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:> Can this be true? Are they really looking to kill the FreeBSD demon? > This borders on sacrilege.From http://logo-contest.freebsd.org/announce.txt "This is the future site for the FreeBSD logo competiton which is meant to create a new logo for the FreeBSD Project to supplement the current Beastie mascot." Key word: supplement.> http://bsd.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/02/09/1955251&from=rss > > Tom Veldhouse > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"-- Dominic
On Tue, Feb 08, 2005 at 05:31:25PM -0600, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:> Can this be true? Are they really looking to kill the FreeBSD demon?No. See replies elsethread. Kris -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 187 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/attachments/20050209/734d21b1/attachment.bin
On February 8, 2005 03:31 pm, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:> Can this be true? Are they really looking to kill the FreeBSD demon? > This borders on sacrilege.> http://bsd.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/02/09/1955251&from=rssRead the advocacy archives for posts from Robert Watson and Anthony Atkielsky. These (along with a bunch of other well-written posts) will clear things up very quickly. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-adcocacy/2005-February/ The main points to remember: a mascot and a logo are not the same thing, and the logo will be used IN ADDITION TO the mascot. And, *this contest is not even live yet*. Check the text on http://logo-contest.freebsd.org -- Freddie Cash, CCNT CCLP Helpdesk / Network Support Tech. School District 73 (250) 377-HELP [377-4357] fcash-ml@sd73.bc.ca
On Feb 8, 2005, at 18:31, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:> Can this be true? Are they really looking to kill the FreeBSD demon?It's "daemon", not "demon". :)
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 23:44:01 +0000 Dominic Marks <dom@helenmarks.co.uk> wrote:> On Tuesday 08 February 2005 23:31, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > > Can this be true? Are they really looking to kill the FreeBSD > > demon? This borders on sacrilege. > > From http://logo-contest.freebsd.org/announce.txt > > "This is the future site for the FreeBSD logo competiton which is > meant to create a new logo for the FreeBSD Project to supplement > the current Beastie mascot." > > Key word: supplement. >I was pretty hostile to the idea as many others were until I noticed that, yes, it is supplement. I hope that this means if a new logo is chosen, Beastie will still have a place on the freebsd.org main page as mascot along with the new logo. -- Robin Schoonover <end@endif.cjb.net> <endx7@users.sf.net> <robin.schoonover@gmail.com> # # The death rate on Earth is: .... (computing) .... One per person.
Hmm, I am not a good enough artist to submit the drawing, but perhaps a good supplement piece would be "Lover" with all the characteristics of the traditional Angel. That way the logos would be compatible and easily accepted as seen togther on a website or box package or CD-disc, not too close together, of course, but likely on opposite sides of the creation. It could put a bit of the feminine into play as well. Bill Isakson. El Cerrito, CA In a message dated 2/13/05 10:23:21 AM Pacific Standard Time, end@endif.cjb.net writes:> On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 23:44:01 +0000 Dominic Marks <dom@helenmarks.co.uk> > wrote: > > On Tuesday 08 February 2005 23:31, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > > > Can this be true? Are they really looking to kill the FreeBSD > > > demon? This borders on sacrilege. > > > > From http://logo-contest.freebsd.org/announce.txt > > > > "This is the future site for the FreeBSD logo competiton which is > > meant to create a new logo for the FreeBSD Project to supplement > > the current Beastie mascot." > > > > Key word: supplement. > > > > I was pretty hostile to the idea as many others were until I noticed > that, yes, it is supplement. I hope that this means if a new logo is > chosen, Beastie will still have a place on the freebsd.org main page as > mascot along with the new logo. > > -- > Robin Schoonover <end@endif.cjb.net> <endx7@users.sf.net> > <robin.schoonover@gmail.com> >
Oh I would not suggest removing Beastie altogether Jesper! That one is too well known, but to add a supplementary angel with the feminine would add to the Package. I am not talking St. Michael here, but rather Lillith, or Mary, or one of Lot's daughters, or even Dinah (who was raped), or the Harlot by the side of the road...no, not the harlot, because it would better be the absolute opposite of Beastie...but not too soft, not Bianca, but the shrew. Probably a Mary would make a good bet. Bill Isakson In a message dated 2/13/05 6:38:57 PM Pacific Standard Time, jesper@hackunite.net writes:> Heya.. > > It might will be easily accepted, but yet, it's still a too advanced logo > to place to resize and such.. Yet, I prefer the old logo and when I see > it, it will always make me (and a LOT of others) to think of FreeBSD.. so > change it as much as you want to, the current one will still be the > primary one for me.. ;-) However, speaking of ideas/suggestions to the new > logo.. Sure, it might be hard as well to resize, but how about the > current Beastie logo with some cuddly and small angel wings? :) But in the > other hand, those religious retards who speaks before they gather enough > information will probably accuse it for being a "fallen angel" instead.. > :-/ At the end, the current one wins my vote. :-) > > > Best regards, > Jesper Wallin > > > Hmm, I am not a good enough artist to submit the drawing, but perhaps a > > good > > supplement piece would be "Lover" with all the characteristics of the > > traditional Angel. That way the logos would be compatible and easily > > accepted as seen > > togther on a website or box package or CD-disc, not too close together, of > > course, but likely on opposite sides of the creation. It could put a bit > > of the > > feminine into play as well. > > Bill Isakson. > > El Cerrito, CA > > > > In a message dated 2/13/05 10:23:21 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > end@endif.cjb.net writes: > > > > > >> On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 23:44:01 +0000 Dominic Marks <dom@helenmarks.co.uk> > >> wrote: > >> > On Tuesday 08 February 2005 23:31, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > >> > > Can this be true? Are they really looking to kill the FreeBSD > >> > > demon? This borders on sacrilege. > >> > > >> > From http://logo-contest.freebsd.org/announce.txt > >> > > >> > "This is the future site for the FreeBSD logo competiton which is > >> > meant to create a new logo for the FreeBSD Project to supplement > >> > the current Beastie mascot." > >> > > >> > Key word: supplement. > >> > > >> > >> I was pretty hostile to the idea as many others were until I noticed > >> that, yes, it is supplement. I hope that this means if a new logo is > >> chosen, Beastie will still have a place on the freebsd.org main page as > >> mascot along with the new logo. > >> > >> -- > >> Robin Schoonover <end@endif.cjb.net> <endx7@users.sf.net> > >> <robin.schoonover@gmail.com> > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > >
Artem Kuchin wrote:> Hi! > > I have a table with ethernet (MAC) addresses matching IPs. It is > used to build dhcp config file. But regardless of that any user can > assign his neighbour ips while that pc is turned off and use it to > access internet. The local ips are 192.168. and are behind natd. > I am running 5.3-STABLE and have heard that ipfw2 can in someway > use MAC addresses, but how do I setup ipfw in such a way thatI use Samba computer names for this. If user changes computer name, then he will not be able login to domain, and will not able do his job. I dont restrict very much access to Internet, just do accounting. It is easy modify my setup to use user names instead of computer names. Accounting is done with trafd and 2 or 3 shell scripts. Maybe you need something like this? If you wish, I can post my scripts.
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 23:58:03 +0300, Artem Kuchin <matrix@itlegion.ru> wrote:> Hi! > > I have a table with ethernet (MAC) addresses matching IPs. It is > used to build dhcp config file. But regardless of that any user can > assign his neighbour ips while that pc is turned off and use it to > access internet. The local ips are 192.168. and are behind natd. > I am running 5.3-STABLE and have heard that ipfw2 can in someway > use MAC addresses, but how do I setup ipfw in such a way that > it allows certain IP only from one and only one MAC address? > I hope you are getting my idea. >You would add the following to the end of your IPFW rule for each IP Address you want to restrict. pass all from 192.168.0.10 to any mac any 10:20:30:40:50:60 Where "10:20:30:40:50:60" is the MAC addr for IP addr 192.168.0.10. Scot
Scot Hetzel <swhetzel@gmail.com> wrote:> On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 23:58:03 +0300, Artem Kuchin <matrix@itlegion.ru> > wrote: >> Hi! >> >> I have a table with ethernet (MAC) addresses matching IPs. It is >> used to build dhcp config file. But regardless of that any user can >> assign his neighbour ips while that pc is turned off and use it to >> access internet. The local ips are 192.168. and are behind natd. >> I am running 5.3-STABLE and have heard that ipfw2 can in someway >> use MAC addresses, but how do I setup ipfw in such a way that >> it allows certain IP only from one and only one MAC address? >> I hope you are getting my idea. >> > You would add the following to the end of your IPFW rule for each IP > Address you want to restrict. > > pass all from 192.168.0.10 to any mac any 10:20:30:40:50:60 > > Where "10:20:30:40:50:60" is the MAC addr for IP addr 192.168.0.10.I have tried static arp today and it seems like it works. As others mentions, it is possible SOMETIMES to change mac address of a nic, so static arp may fail as well as this firewall rule. So, i am wondering which method is better static arp entries or ipfw rules? Artem