samba - May 2010 - RE : RE : Example of command ". / Setup / provision"

>
>
> I do not understand, I will have a hostname and NetBIOS name 
> different?
Yes.
>
>
>
> So
>
> -- Domain = SAMBA
>
> it'll be my name NETBIOS, and
>
> -- Realm = TPI.DOMAINE.CH-SERVER
>
> will my machine name + my domain?
>
> Thank you
> ________________________________
> De : tms3 at tms3.com [tms3 at tms3.com]
> Date d'envoi : mardi 18 mai 2010 15:50
> ? : Viatte Fr?d?ric
> Cc : Laurent BARRAILLE; samba at lists.samba.org
> Objet : Re: RE : [Samba] Example of command ". / Setup /
provision"
>
>
>
> SNIP
>
> How to know the NetBIOS name in Linux?
> Linux does not care.  Only Windows cares.
>
>
> The name of my domain is: DOMAINE.CH
> The name of my server: SERVEUR-TPI
> The posix name of the server does not matter.  Nor does the DNS name 
> as it can have more than one DNS name.  You need to work with Samba as 
> a somewhat separate entity.  It is simply easier to match names up for 
> us humans.  So....
>
>
> If I put "-- realm = SERVEUR-TPI.DOMAINE.CH -- domain = DOMAINE.CH
"
>
> Nope.  See, the important thing is the "domain" name should be a 
> single simple short word.  So the easiest bit would be:
>
> realm = SERVEUR-TPI.DOMAINE.CH -- domain =SERVEUR-TPI
>
> BUT!!!!!!  your kerberos realm does NOT have to match the machine name 
> either!  So we could forget the *nix name completely and just for 
> simplicity:
>
> --realm=SAMBA.DOMAINE.CH --domain=SAMBA
>
>
> His able to walk?
>
> Thank you
>
>
> ________________________________________
> De : samba-bounces at lists.samba.org [samba-bounces at lists.samba.org] de
> la part de tms3 at tms3.com [tms3 at tms3.com]
> Date d'envoi : mardi 18 mai 2010 15:11
> ? : Laurent BARRAILLE
> Cc : samba at lists.samba.org
> Objet : Re: [Samba] Example of command ". / Setup / provision"
>
> SNIP
>
>
>
> Because in the "HOWTO" is set "- realm = samdom.example.com
- domain > SAMDOM"
>
> but what corresponds "SAMDOM" Because the domain is
"example.com" no ?
>
> SAMDOM is the Windows domain.
> This is a sub domain of the "example.com" domain
>
> Well, not really. SAMDOM is the NETBIOS name of the domain, which we
> have to use the "way back" machine to Winblows NT4 to come to
grips
> with it. So, yes the domain IS example.com, and, if you want, you can
> do this:
>
> realm = EXAMPLE.COM and have domain = EXAMPLE.
>
> It is also possible to have the domain = EX or TEST and the realm be
> EXAMPLE.COM, though I'd not recommend it.
>
> For the most part it is a design issue.
>
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
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Because the realm of the HOWTO shows that it is necessary to use the complete
name of the server it is false?

I have put: 

- Realm=serveur-tpi.domaine.ch 

And

- Domain=domaine.ch (I am to oblige to put it otherwise I cannot join any more
the domain with a client)

And afterward, I changed the name of NetBIOS in the file " smb.conf "
and I put "Samba".

Here is the named.conf which comes from the directory " / etc. / " 

Thank you
________________________________________
De : Michael Wood [esiotrot at gmail.com]
Date d'envoi : mercredi 19 mai 2010 14:07
? : Viatte Fr?d?ric
Cc : samba at lists.samba.org
Objet : Re: RE : [Samba] RE : RE : Example of command ". / Setup /
provision"

Hi

2010/5/19 Viatte Fr?d?ric <Frederic.Viatte at
rpn.ch>:
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Viatte Fr?d?ric
> Envoy? : mercredi, 19. mai 2010 11:58
> ? : 'Michael Wood'
> Cc : tms3 at tms3.com; samba at lists.samba.org
> Objet : RE: RE : [Samba] RE : RE : Example of command ". / Setup /
provision"
>
> I solved this error, but I have another one now, here it is:
>
> Error occurred while starting named service.
> Error: / usr / local / samba / private / named.conf: 6: unknown option
'zone'
>
> I tried to send you my file "named.conf" file "private"
I do not know if you've received?
It seems you are still using "SERVEUR-TPI.DOMAINE.CH" as your realm
and DNS domain.  Why not just "DOMAIN.CH"?

Otherwise there seems to be nothing wrong with the named.conf you attached.

What does your /etc/named.conf file look like?

(On Ubuntu it's /etc/bind/named.conf instead of /etc/named.conf.)

--
Michael Wood <esiotrot at gmail.com>

2010/5/19 Viatte Fr?d?ric <Frederic.Viatte at
rpn.ch>:
> I can not test now, I'll try tomorrow. you're sure if we put --
> domain=DOMAINE (without ".CH") his walk? because I try and it
seems to
The --domain option refers to a Windows NT-style domain name and not a
DNS domain.  So it must not have a "." in it.
> me that I could not join a domain.
There must have been some other reason that you could not join the
domain with "--domain=DOMAINE".

 for # include, I put in the
> "option" just below "include.... / forwarders"! for the
area in domaine.ch
> ?". / private" I confirm you tomorrow! thank you
The #include of the .../private/named.conf must not be inside option
{...}.  That is why it was complaining about "zone".

But if you have both the "zone domain.ch ..." and "#include
.../private/named.conf" in the /etc/named.conf then they will probably
conflict with each other.

-- 
Michael Wood <esiotrot at gmail.com>

Hi

2010/5/20 Viatte Fr?d?ric <Frederic.Viatte at
rpn.ch>:
> Hello
>
> For my zone DOMAINE.CH, yes I have one in
"/usr/local/samba/private/dns" ! It is called
"domaine.ch.zone"
>
> And for # include "/usr/local/samba /private/named.conf" I put in
"/usr/named.conf" in the "options" below "notify
no"
As mentioned in my previous e-mail, it won't work if you put the
#include into "options".  Put it at the bottom of the file where it
says:

# You can insert further zone records for your own domains below or create
# single files in /etc/named.d/ and add the file names to
# NAMED_CONF_INCLUDE_FILES.
# See /usr/share/doc/packages/bind/README.SUSE for more details.

Or you could follow the instructions in the above comment, but just
including the #include here should work (as long as the contents of
the file do not conflict with the other zones already defined in
/etc/named.conf.)
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De?: Michael Wood [mailto:esiotrot at gmail.com]
> Envoy??: mercredi, 19. mai 2010 17:49
> ??: Viatte Fr?d?ric
> Cc?: samba at lists.samba.org
> Objet?: Re: RE : RE : [Samba] Example of command ". / Setup /
provision"
>
> 2010/5/19 Viatte Fr?d?ric <Frederic.Viatte at rpn.ch>:
>> Because the realm of the HOWTO shows that it is necessary to use the
complete name of the server it is false?
>
> No, the HOWTO does not have the server name in the realm.
?"samdom" is
> not the server name.
>
>> I have put:
>>
>> - Realm=serveur-tpi.domaine.ch
>>
>> And
>>
>> - Domain=domaine.ch (I am to oblige to put it otherwise I cannot join
any more the domain with a client)
>
> No. ?"--domain" must not have a "." in it. ?Use
"--realm=domaine.ch
> --domain=DOMAINE".
>
>> And afterward, I changed the name of NetBIOS in the file "
smb.conf " and I put "Samba".
>
> I did not have to do that when I tested Samba4. ?I just used
> "--realm=something.org.za --domain=SOMETHING" and the
server's name
> was kudu.something.org.za.
>
>> Here is the named.conf which comes from the directory " / etc. /
"
>
> Do you have a DOMAIN.CH zone in addition to the one created by
> provision in /usr/local/samba/private? ?Where did you put the #include
> statement?
-- 
Michael Wood <esiotrot at gmail.com>

2010/5/20 Viatte Fr?d?ric <Frederic.Viatte at
rpn.ch>:
> Ok, I solved the problem by changing my DNS zone because there was a
conflict! Now I tried to do the tests, but without success! I read the file
"message.log" and here is what I found when I restart my DNS:
>
> the working directory is not writable ( what folder ? )
>
> zone domaine.ch/IN: loading from master file
/usr/local/samba/private/dns/domaine.ch.zone failed: file not found
>
> But my file exists and is in the right place!
Try this:

* Move /usr/local/samba/private/named.conf to /etc/named.conf.samba4.
* Move /usr/local/samba/private/dns/domaine.ch.zone to
/var/lib/named/master (I think.)
* Edit named.conf.samba4 and change the path to domaine.ch.zone to
where you moved it.
* Make sure /etc/named.conf points to the new location of named.conf.samba4.

See if that works.
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De?: Michael Wood [mailto:esiotrot at gmail.com]
> Envoy??: jeudi, 20. mai 2010 09:15
> ??: Viatte Fr?d?ric
> Cc?: Samba
> Objet?: Re: RE : RE : [Samba] Example of command ". / Setup /
provision"
>
> Hi
>
> 2010/5/20 Viatte Fr?d?ric <Frederic.Viatte at rpn.ch>:
>> Hello
>>
>> For my zone DOMAINE.CH, yes I have one in
"/usr/local/samba/private/dns" ! It is called
"domaine.ch.zone"
>>
>> And for # include "/usr/local/samba /private/named.conf" I
put in "/usr/named.conf" in the "options" below "notify
no"
>
> As mentioned in my previous e-mail, it won't work if you put the
> #include into "options". ?Put it at the bottom of the file where
it
> says:
>
> # You can insert further zone records for your own domains below or create
> # single files in /etc/named.d/ and add the file names to
> # NAMED_CONF_INCLUDE_FILES.
> # See /usr/share/doc/packages/bind/README.SUSE for more details.
>
> Or you could follow the instructions in the above comment, but just
> including the #include here should work (as long as the contents of
> the file do not conflict with the other zones already defined in
> /etc/named.conf.)
>
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De?: Michael Wood [mailto:esiotrot at gmail.com]
>> Envoy??: mercredi, 19. mai 2010 17:49
>> ??: Viatte Fr?d?ric
>> Cc?: samba at lists.samba.org
>> Objet?: Re: RE : RE : [Samba] Example of command ". / Setup /
provision"
>>
>> 2010/5/19 Viatte Fr?d?ric <Frederic.Viatte at rpn.ch>:
>>> Because the realm of the HOWTO shows that it is necessary to use
the complete name of the server it is false?
>>
>> No, the HOWTO does not have the server name in the realm.
?"samdom" is
>> not the server name.
>>
>>> I have put:
>>>
>>> - Realm=serveur-tpi.domaine.ch
>>>
>>> And
>>>
>>> - Domain=domaine.ch (I am to oblige to put it otherwise I cannot
join any more the domain with a client)
>>
>> No. ?"--domain" must not have a "." in it. ?Use
"--realm=domaine.ch
>> --domain=DOMAINE".
>>
>>> And afterward, I changed the name of NetBIOS in the file "
smb.conf " and I put "Samba".
>>
>> I did not have to do that when I tested Samba4. ?I just used
>> "--realm=something.org.za --domain=SOMETHING" and the
server's name
>> was kudu.something.org.za.
>>
>>> Here is the named.conf which comes from the directory " / etc.
/ "
>>
>> Do you have a DOMAIN.CH zone in addition to the one created by
>> provision in /usr/local/samba/private? ?Where did you put the #include
>> statement?
-- 
Michael Wood <esiotrot at gmail.com>

2010/5/20 Viatte Fr?d?ric <Frederic.Viatte at
rpn.ch>:
> I forgot, when I execute:
>
> $ host -t SRV _ldap._tcp.DOMAINE.CH
>
> This is the error:
>
> Host _ldap._tcp.DOMAINE.CH.DOMAINE.CH not found: 2(SERVFAIL)
>
> In my resolv.conf I like this line: search DOMAINE.CH
That probably means it can't find DOMAINE.CH and so it looks for
DOMAINE.CH.DOMAINE.CH.

Make bind9 happy first and then try this again.  Also try putting a
"." at the end, like this:

"host _ldap._tcp.domaine.ch."

-- 
Michael Wood <esiotrot at gmail.com>