I'm using "rsync -azurvp -e ssh $acctname@$ip:$first --timeout=60 ." in which I use the timeout to cutout if ssh won't connect, but if I do connect and begin downloading a large file there doesn't seem to be any writing to disk for more than 60 seconds and so it will time out & die. Is there a better suggested way to initiate an automated ssh connection, testing for timeouts & downloading large files? Steve Malllett