On 10/30/06, Phlip <phlip2005 at gmail.com> wrote:> RSpeckers:
>
> I went with RSpec instead of Systir because I downloaded and installed
> the former first.
>
> (I know that''s not exactly a ringing endorsement! ;-)
>
maybe not, but it''s a start :-) And systir doesn''t have a gem,
which
might have put you off, I don''t know.
I have to admit I don''t understand what problem systir attempts to
solve though....
> I want to compete with FIT and Fitnesse, like this:
>
> http://www.zeroplayer.com/cgi-bin/wiki?TestFlea#tropism
>
> (Click on a Green Bar to distend one test case.)
>
> I want a domain-specific language in the parchment-colored area on the
right.
>
> I don''t want to invent it the bass-ackwards way FIT does, with its
> Java-style Action Fixture. That just gets me back to writing each line
> as a custom function. Ruby solutions tend to be much more elegant than
> that!
>
Personally I''m a big fan of FIT. I like the way it allows business
rules to be expressed at a very high level.
Browser testing tools like Watir and Selenium-RC are good too, but I
tend to prefer a UI agnostic framework for most of the business logic
and only use Watir/Selenium-RC to verify navigation.
> Now here''s my RSpec_Watir solution, to log into a site:
>
> snapshot()
> @browser.should_contain("login")
> @browser.text_field(:id, ''login'').should_exist
>
>
@browser.ie.document.activeElement.name.should_equal(''login'')
> # .because login field should have the focus
>
Have you looked at RSpec''s vendor/watir directory? (Only available if
you check out the code from svn - it''s not in the gem yet).
> Those lines violate the Systir principles; they use parens () and
> variables and state. They use a comment instead of an assertion
> documentation string.
>
> RSpec has gone a long way towards producing readable sentences -
> "should_contain" instead of "assert ... contains?" etc.
>
> How to go the extra step? How to improve my RSpec style? How to get
> rid of @browser, and have a true domain language, without writing a
> private function for every stinkin'' operation on my website?
>
Wouldn''t systir also require you to define higher wrapper methods?
> Oh, and soon my tests must use 2 or more browsers, too...
>
Selenium-RC can do that. See RSpec''s vendor/selenium for an example.
Aslak
> (I suspect I can''t just cram in Systir, because it has a competing
> test runner. And I have a bug report on ZenTest that I don''t want
to
> work around yet.)
>
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