All, I was looking through the different Package Groupings available in a CentOS 3.3 installation and was unable to find OpenOffice. This peaked my curiosity a bit. Which Package Group installs the OpenOffice package? I understand there are updates available and I would end up updating via Yum, but I want to have the package installed so that I can just rely on a ''yum update'' instead of a ''yum install''. If I''m just blind, please let me know! Thanks all... -Mike -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.caosity.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20050313/5c61a503/attachment.htm
On Sun, 2005-03-13 at 17:47 -0500, Michael J. Semaniuk wrote:> All, > > I was looking through the different Package Groupings available in a > CentOS 3.3 installation and was unable to find OpenOffice. This > peaked my curiosity a bit. Which Package Group installs the > OpenOffice package? I understand there are updates available and I > would end up updating via Yum, but I want to have the package > installed so that I can just rely on a ''yum update'' instead of a ''yum > install''. If I''m just blind, please let me know! Thanks all... >On initial install, it should be in the Office section -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://lists.caosity.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20050314/366c8a7f/attachment.bin
That''s exactly where it should be, but it is not listed there. It is important to note that I am installing via NFS, so that may have something to do with it. If it does, I''m curious what I would need to do to resolve it. -Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johnny Hughes" <mailing-lists@hughesjr.com> To: "CentOS Users" <centos@caosity.org> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 6:11 AM Subject: Re: [Centos] OpenOffice Package Group> On initial install, it should be in the Office section
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 10:05:47AM -0500, Michael J. Semaniuk wrote:> That''s exactly where it should be, but it is not listed there. It is > important to note that I am installing via NFS, so that may have something > to do with it. If it does, I''m curious what I would need to do to resolve > it. ><please do not top post> There was a upstream bug in the 3.3 comp.xml file. The OpenOffice.org package has changed name openoffice -> openoffice.org and a missing dependency for openoffice.org-i18n has been reported. This was fixed in the 3.4 version. If you have 3.3 installed you need to: yum -y install openoffice.org openoffice.org-i18n Cheers, Tru
On Mon, March 14, 2005 9:05 am, Michael J. Semaniuk said:> That''s exactly where it should be, but it is not listed there. It is > important to note that I am installing via NFS, so that may have something > to do with it. If it does, I''m curious what I would need to do to resolve > it. > > -Mike > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Johnny Hughes" <mailing-lists@hughesjr.com> > To: "CentOS Users" <centos@caosity.org> > Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 6:11 AM > Subject: Re: [Centos] OpenOffice Package Group > > >> On initial install, it should be in the Office sectionIs that a text based install only? If so, there is not a way (that I know of) to select individual packages, just package groups. It only installs mandatory or default items for the package group. I haven''t used that installer in a while, so I may be mistaken. -- Johnny Hughes <http://www.HughesJR.com/>
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:35:30 -0600 (CST), Johnny Hughes> If so, there is not a way (that I know of) to select individual packages, > just package groups. It only installs mandatory or default items for the > package group.Johnny, I don''t think that''s true. During a text based install you can press "F2" (I believe) to select/deselect individual packages from the group. Thanks, Ryan
Hi is there any quick way to do a IO nice using CentOS 3? I just did a mkfs and that made my fileserver jump to 20 in load, it would be nice if one could just let it run a bit slower. //Chris
centos-bounces@caosity.org wrote on 03/14/2005 10:11:44 AM:> On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:35:30 -0600 (CST), Johnny Hughes > > If so, there is not a way (that I know of) to select individualpackages,> > just package groups. It only installs mandatory or default items forthe> > package group. > > Johnny, I don''t think that''s true. During a text based install you > can press "F2" (I believe) to select/deselect individual packages from > the group.Really? I didn''t know that. I was just about to post a rant about how bloated the "minimal" install is. It installed 281 packages and with a little bit of work, I reduced it to 200 packages (I''m sure even more could be deleted). Next time I get a system setup that I can experiment with, I''ll have to try it. More information on this would be greatly appreciated. Matt Lawrence "Your friendly neighborhood sysadmin" 512.838.2645 T/L 678-2645 512.351.1061 (cell) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.caosity.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20050314/ca002ad2/attachment.htm
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:22:44 -0600, Matt Lawrence <mattlaw@us.ibm.com> wrote:> Really? I didn''t know that. I was just about to post a rant about how > bloated the "minimal" install is. It installed 281 packages and with a > little bit of work, I reduced it to 200 packages (I''m sure even more could > be deleted). Next time I get a system setup that I can experiment with, > I''ll have to try it.Yes, I just confirmed that you can press F2 during a text based install to select/deselect individual components of package groups. However, in your case this probably wouldn''t help, because for the minimal install you probably already have all the package groups deselected. You''re still going to get the core RPMs that they want you to have. -Ryan
Matt Lawrence wrote:> centos-bounces@caosity.org wrote on 03/14/2005 10:11:44 AM: > > > Johnny, I don''t think that''s true. During a text based install you > > can press "F2" (I believe) to select/deselect individual packages from > > the group. > > Really? I didn''t know that. I was just about to post a rant about how > bloated the "minimal" install is. It installed 281 packages and with a > little bit of work, I reduced it to 200 packages (I''m sure even more > could be deleted).This thread might be of interest to you: http://lists.caosity.org/pipermail/centos/2005-January/001734.html
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:47:46 -0500, Avtar Gill <avtargill@gmail.com> wrote:> Matt Lawrence wrote: > > This thread might be of interest to you: > http://lists.caosity.org/pipermail/centos/2005-January/001734.htmlOr even this entire project: http://simpaticus.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-minimal_simpaticus.com Greg
On Mon, 2005-03-14 at 12:09 -0500, Ryan Lane wrote:> On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:22:44 -0600, Matt Lawrence <mattlaw@us.ibm.com> wrote: > > Really? I didn''t know that. I was just about to post a rant about how > > bloated the "minimal" install is. It installed 281 packages and with a > > little bit of work, I reduced it to 200 packages (I''m sure even more could > > be deleted). Next time I get a system setup that I can experiment with, > > I''ll have to try it. > > Yes, I just confirmed that you can press F2 during a text based > install to select/deselect individual components of package groups. > > However, in your case this probably wouldn''t help, because for the > minimal install you probably already have all the package groups > deselected. You''re still going to get the core RPMs that they want > you to have. > > -RyanThanks ... I did not know that F2 would allow that. Learn something new every day :) ---------------------------------------- Tru is correct that the comps.xml for 3.3 references openoffice and not openoffice.org So yum is the way to install openoffice.org As to the minimum install, I agree that the number of packages installed by RH is not really minimal, but we are installing the same packages, as it is our goal to have CentOS install like RHEL. -- Johnny Hughes <http://www.HughesJR.com/> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://lists.caosity.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20050314/fbb944bb/attachment-0001.bin
centos-bounces@caosity.org wrote on 03/14/2005 02:33:16 PM:> On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:47:46 -0500, Avtar Gill <avtargill@gmail.com>wrote:> > Matt Lawrence wrote: > > > > This thread might be of interest to you: > > http://lists.caosity.org/pipermail/centos/2005-January/001734.html > > Or even this entire project: > > http://simpaticus.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-minimal_simpaticus.comNot really. I''m just annoyed with the fact that the RedHat folks in charge of packaging seem to have no clue what the word "minimal" means. To quote a well known movie: "I do not think that word means what you think it does". Matt Lawrence "Your friendly neighborhood sysadmin" 512.838.2645 T/L 678-2645 512.351.1061 (cell) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.caosity.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20050314/58bc52e5/attachment.htm
centos-bounces@caosity.org wrote on 03/14/2005 06:35:41 PM:> As to the minimum install, I agree that the number of packages installed > by RH is not really minimal, but we are installing the same packages, as > it is our goal to have CentOS install like RHEL.That''s exactly what I want you to do. CentOS 4 is a wonderful way for me to find all the warts in RHEL4. I now know that if I do a "minimal" install with RHEL4, I''m going to get a lot of extra "stuff". I would much rather find out this way. Great job! Matt Lawrence "Your friendly neighborhood sysadmin" 512.838.2645 T/L 678-2645 512.351.1061 (cell) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.caosity.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20050314/cca050dc/attachment-0001.htm
anyone had luck gettin'' dspam up and rollin'' on 4.x? dag has no pkgs, and I kept running into odd dependencies, including mysqld packages that aren''t even in 4.x. ;-( anyone had better luck? J
Jonathan wrote:> anyone had luck gettin'' dspam up and rollin'' on 4.x? dag has no pkgs, > and I kept running into odd dependencies, including mysqld packages > that aren''t even in 4.x. ;-( > > anyone had better luck? >You may want to reconsider. I had been using dspam for about a year and sometime in the early 2004 the bloat really started to get out of hand and maintaining it on a production machine became untenable for me. I switched to CRM114 (you can find it on sourceforge) and revelled in the simplicity of installation, ease of maintenance/upgrades and lack of bloat. It seems to work at least as well as Dspam in my environment so you might want to give it a try before you start installing databases you don''t want or need, etc. Cheers, C -- Chris Mauritz chrism@imntv.com VP & Chief Technology Officer Independent Music Network http://www.imntv.com
You might consider giving MailScanner a shot. I''ve been using it for a couple of years and it has changed my life! http://www.mailscanner.info Mike -----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@caosity.org [mailto:centos-bounces@caosity.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 2:19 AM To: CentOS discussion and information list Subject: [Centos] dspam 4.x? anyone had luck gettin'' dspam up and rollin'' on 4.x? dag has no pkgs, and I kept running into odd dependencies, including mysqld packages that aren''t even in 4.x. ;-( anyone had better luck? J _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@caosity.org http://lists.caosity.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Jonathan wrote:> anyone had luck gettin'' dspam up and rollin'' on 4.x? dag has no pkgs, > and I kept running into odd dependencies, including mysqld packages > that aren''t even in 4.x. ;-( > > anyone had better luck? > > JAfter screwing around for a long time installing it on 3.3, I decided to do a manual source install. If you want my notes, I''ll pass the very ragged text along. Just pop me an email. Seems if you are running very much mail through, you really need to use mysql, and 4 preferably. I haven''t had the chance to try an install on centos 4, so these ''notes'' aren''t tested there. John Hinton