asterisk users - Dec 2004 - My Boss wants background music!!!!

Dear Members,

I am searching for a new PBX for the company. My choice is Astrisk. My Boss
wants background music via all the telephones. This is done in a
conventional PBX that he wants, but I can use the Asterisk PBX if it can do
this also. 
As I said he needs background music on every telephone this is not to be
mistaken with music on hold. 
The bit stream is an MP3 file of 8 Kbs. At the server it might be at the
maximum 570Kbs if it has to send it individually to each telephone. 
The network: 10/100 layer-3 switches with QoS on a 1000Mbs backbone.

Please, is there a way to get this done, otherwise I have to say goodbye to
Asterisk (unless my boss gives in).

Thank you all

Willy


ONS

On Thu, 2004-12-16 at 04:48, Satchid wrote:
> Dear Members,
> 
> I am searching for a new PBX for the company. My choice is Astrisk. My Boss
> wants background music via all the telephones. This is done in a
> conventional PBX that he wants, but I can use the Asterisk PBX if it can do
> this also. 
> As I said he needs background music on every telephone this is not to be
> mistaken with music on hold. 
> The bit stream is an MP3 file of 8 Kbs. At the server it might be at the
> maximum 570Kbs if it has to send it individually to each telephone. 
> The network: 10/100 layer-3 switches with QoS on a 1000Mbs backbone.
Most hardware phone systems will do this, and its circuitry is related
to station paging and hands free autoanswer intercom. I was wondering
about this feature myself, but more interest in station paging and HFAI.

Satchid wrote:
> Dear Members,
> 
> As I said he needs background music on every telephone this is not to be
> mistaken with music on hold. 
> The bit stream is an MP3 file of 8 Kbs. At the server it might be at the
> maximum 570Kbs if it has to send it individually to each telephone. 
> The network: 10/100 layer-3 switches with QoS on a 1000Mbs backbone.
> 
You can do this with a multiline phone by setting up  an extension like 
this:

  exten => 201,1,SetMusicOnHold(emp)
  exten => 201,2,Answer()
  exten => 201,3,MusicOnHold()
  exten => 201,4,Hangup

Then be sure you have the emp music class setup in musiconhold.conf:

emp => quietmp3nb:/var/lib/asterisk/mohmp3/emp,-z

This works fine. Users use one line to dial in to this and let it run on 
speaker phone.
When a call comes in, it is on another line and can be picked up.
When they hang up, they resume the music line.

-- 

respectfully, Joseph
--------------------

At 04:48 AM 12/16/04, you wrote:
>Dear Members,
>
>I am searching for a new PBX for the company. My choice is Astrisk. My Boss
>wants background music via all the telephones.
If you don't mind my asking, what application would require this feature?



Regards
Greg Cirino
___________________________________

I have a proposition to you both.

The users want background music, right?

The background music doesn't have to come from the phone.

You can set up a streaming media server (even using winamp on one of the
desktops) and the users can connect to it from a browser.

Want to take it a bit further?
Make the website check your call status on asterisk via the manager
interface and you can lower the volume automatically.

The first part is easy.
The second part needs work, but I assume that it can be done rather
easily.

What do you think?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Kohlsmith [mailto:akohlsmith-asterisk@benshaw.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 2:55 PM
> To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] My Boss wants background music!!!!
> 
> On December 16, 2004 07:01 am, Greg - Cirelle Enterprises wrote:
> > >I am searching for a new PBX for the company. My choice is
Astrisk.
My
> > > Boss wants background music via all the telephones.
> 
> > If you don't mind my asking, what application would require this
> feature?
> 
> Some people like the inane blather in their office.  I personally
dislike
> background music but many people around me enjoy it.  They keep the
volume
> on
> their phones down and it doesn't bother me too much.
> 
> But yes, it's popular and yes, it's doable with a multiline phone
or a
> phone
> that supports paging.
> 
> -A.
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Satchid wrote:
>Dear Members,
>
>I am searching for a new PBX for the company. My choice is Astrisk. My Boss
>wants background music via all the telephones. This is done in a
>conventional PBX that he wants, but I can use the Asterisk PBX if it can do
>this also. 
>As I said he needs background music on every telephone this is not to be
>mistaken with music on hold. 
>  
>
How about modifying the chan_agent stuff?  Right now, if an agent logs 
into a queue, he hears music until a call comes into him.  So you have 
the option of making a queue for every phone (which wouldn't be all that 
great) or creating a new application that copies some of the agentlogin 
functionality, perhaps hanging up when a new call comes in?
>The bit stream is an MP3 file of 8 Kbs. At the server it might be at the
>maximum 570Kbs if it has to send it individually to each telephone. 
>The network: 10/100 layer-3 switches with QoS on a 1000Mbs backbone.
>
But the music isn't sent as an MP3 to the phone, it's sent using 
whatever codec you're using.

Nick

Interesting requirement.  Depending on your site, you may consider
alternative solutions.  If you have individual offices, I suppose the
PBX route would be the best way to go; however, if you have a shared
space (cube-farm, call-room, whatever), maybe you can share the music
source?  In that case, I'd look into slimp3s with a slimserver, and an
inexpensive shelf-system as the amplifier.  www.slimdevices.com would
have some more pointers.  If you have dropped ceilings (as must
businesses do), you could even run ceiling speakers and hook them up to
a slimp3 or other music source via an inexpensive car-amplifier.  Oh
yeah, multiple slimp3s can be synchronized.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Satchid [mailto:satchid@telenet.be] 
> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 3:49 AM
> To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
> Subject: [Asterisk-Users] My Boss wants background music!!!!
> 
> 
> Dear Members,
> 
> I am searching for a new PBX for the company. My choice is 
> Astrisk. My Boss wants background music via all the 
> telephones. This is done in a conventional PBX that he wants, 
> but I can use the Asterisk PBX if it can do this also. 
> As I said he needs background music on every telephone this 
> is not to be mistaken with music on hold. 
> The bit stream is an MP3 file of 8 Kbs. At the server it 
> might be at the maximum 570Kbs if it has to send it 
> individually to each telephone. 
> The network: 10/100 layer-3 switches with QoS on a 1000Mbs backbone.
> 
> Please, is there a way to get this done, otherwise I have to 
> say goodbye to Asterisk (unless my boss gives in).
> 
> Thank you all
> 
> Willy

> I am searching for a new PBX for the company. My choice is Astrisk. My Boss
> wants background music via all the telephones. This is done in a
> conventional PBX that he wants, but I can use the Asterisk PBX if it can do
What a waste of resources though, like installing video games on the
asterisk server... Ther must be a powerline intercom that would handle
this (adding a speaker per music distribution point.)

On Fri, 17 Dec 2004, Wilson Pickett wrote:
> > I am searching for a new PBX for the company. My choice is Astrisk. My
Boss
> > wants background music via all the telephones. This is done in a
> > conventional PBX that he wants, but I can use the Asterisk PBX if it
can do
> 
> What a waste of resources though, like installing video games on the
> asterisk server... Ther must be a powerline intercom that would handle
> this (adding a speaker per music distribution point.)
The requirement of the original poster was to mute the music at the desk 
when a call is in progress. 

It would be really nice if there was a hardphone capable of accepting a 
multicast high-quality stream when no call was in progress. 

Peter

Xml services for cisco 7960, setup a broadcast stream. Check the wiki.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 3:28 AM
To: Wilson Pickett; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial
Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] My Boss wants background music!!!!

On Fri, 17 Dec 2004, Wilson Pickett wrote:
> > I am searching for a new PBX for the company. My choice is Astrisk.
My Boss
> > wants background music via all the telephones. This is done in a
> > conventional PBX that he wants, but I can use the Asterisk PBX if it
can do
> 
> What a waste of resources though, like installing video games on the
> asterisk server... Ther must be a powerline intercom that would handle
> this (adding a speaker per music distribution point.)
The requirement of the original poster was to mute the music at the desk

when a call is in progress. 

It would be really nice if there was a hardphone capable of accepting a 
multicast high-quality stream when no call was in progress. 

Peter

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Why not just dial an extention for music when the user wants music
from there desk.
>The requirement of the original poster was to mute the music at the desk
>when a call is in progress.
>
I>t would be really nice if there was a hardphone capable of accepting
a
>multicast high-quality stream when no call was in progress.

I think that with AGI it should be possible, when a call comes in
disconnect the MOH call then connect the incoming call, when the call
is done just reconnect the MOH.


On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 09:31:24 -0500, Steven Kalcevich (Lists)
<skalcevich.network@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why not just dial an extention for music when the user wants music
> from there desk.
> 
> >The requirement of the original poster was to mute the music at the
desk
> >when a call is in progress.
> >
> I>t would be really nice if there was a hardphone capable of accepting a
> >multicast high-quality stream when no call was in progress.
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On Fri, Dec 17, 2004 at 07:54:19AM +0100, Wilson Pickett
wrote:
> > I am searching for a new PBX for the company. My choice is Astrisk. My
Boss
> > wants background music via all the telephones. This is done in a
> > conventional PBX that he wants, but I can use the Asterisk PBX if it
can do
> 
> What a waste of resources though, like installing video games on the
> asterisk server... Ther must be a powerline intercom that would handle
> this (adding a speaker per music distribution point.)
Or get a couple of these -->  http://www.slimdevices.com/  or similar :)
and have REAL music in your office :)