this is an interesting one.. i hope someone can help out. i've got some solaris 8 boxes set up with pam_ldap and nss_ldap using the iplanet ldap sdk. openssh works until i enable SSL on the ldap server. when i turn SSL on, the user auths, sees the lastlog message, sees the MOTD, then nothing. with an openssh snapshot, you see the lastlog message only. the weird thing is that you are actually in a shell at this point. if you type a bad command you'll see an error, but you won't see anything else. this setup works perfect with the commercial ssh software, just not with openssh. i can provide a box for debugging if any openssh expert would like to check this out. -- http://chemlab.org - email shade-pgpkey at chemlab.org for pgp public key chemlab radio! - drop out @ http://mp3.chemlab.org:8000 24-7-365 "i could build anything if i could just find my tools.."