With Schuerig''s initial report on the general list, I''ve tracked down a difference in YAML in Ruby 1.8.3 that''s causing AR''s serialization to bustinate. I''ve put up a patch at #2304 but I''m not 100% about it, so I''m soliciting comments. So ... comment! Thanks -- Scott Barron Lunchbox Software http://lunchboxsoftware.com http://lunchroom.lunchboxsoftware.com http://rubyi.st