On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 16:44 +0100, Claudio Scordino wrote:> Our question at this point is: which is the most tested and > recommended ARM platform among the ones listed ?Arndale and midway are probably the best. However both are difficult to get hold of in their own way... Arndale''s seem to take ages to ship, while I don''t think Midway is available to buy yet, and in any case they are server class (i.e. not cheap). Arndale is probably the best bet. Allwinner based stuff (aka sunxi) is less well tested overall but might have better availability, it is also super cheap in most cases (e.g. cubieboard2/truck). Ian.
[Adding Julien] On lun, 2013-12-09 at 15:53 +0000, Ian Campbell wrote:> On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 16:44 +0100, Claudio Scordino wrote: > > Our question at this point is: which is the most tested and > > recommended ARM platform among the ones listed ? > > Arndale and midway are probably the best. However both are difficult to > get hold of in their own way... Arndale''s seem to take ages to ship, > while I don''t think Midway is available to buy yet, and in any case they > are server class (i.e. not cheap). >Since it''s embedded, midway is particularly bad suited, I think, even for prototypes (apart it being expensive and not yet available). :-)> Arndale is probably the best bet. Allwinner based stuff (aka sunxi) is > less well tested overall but might have better availability, it is also > super cheap in most cases (e.g. cubieboard2/truck). >Ok, thanks Ian for the info! In case one wants to go for cubie, this is where all the information lives, right? http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_ARM_with_Virtualization_Extensions/Allwinner Is it still current? Have things got any better lately, from either Linux or Xen side? While this is, I think, the same for Arndale: http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_ARM_with_Virtualization_Extensions/Arndale which does look less "hacky", at least at a first glance... Claudio, perhaps you can investigate how easy it would be for you to get an Arndale board, and fallback on cubie2/truck if it''s actually that hard? Thanks again Ian, Dario -- <<This happens because I choose it to happen!>> (Raistlin Majere) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xen.org http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel
On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 17:48 +0100, Dario Faggioli wrote:> In case one wants to go for cubie, this is where all the information > lives, right? > http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_ARM_with_Virtualization_Extensions/AllwinnerRight.> Is it still current? Have things got any better lately, from either > Linux or Xen side?Things are improving wrt upstream Linux driver availability (for dom0 use), which is the main issue right now. TBH I haven''t reviewed the wiki page since Bamvor wrote it -- it probably does need some TLC by now. Ian.
Dear all, thank you for your help.>> Arndale is probably the best bet. Allwinner based stuff (aka sunxi) is >> less well tested overall but might have better availability, it is also >> super cheap in most cases (e.g. cubieboard2/truck). >> > Ok, thanks Ian for the info! > > In case one wants to go for cubie, this is where all the information > lives, right? > http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_ARM_with_Virtualization_Extensions/Allwinner > > Is it still current? Have things got any better lately, from either > Linux or Xen side? > > While this is, I think, the same for Arndale: > http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_ARM_with_Virtualization_Extensions/Arndale > which does look less "hacky", at least at a first glance... > > Claudio, perhaps you can investigate how easy it would be for you to get > an Arndale board, and fallback on cubie2/truck if it''s actually that > hard?I checked. Arndale says 4 weeks to ship, which may be a too long time (especially if not respected). Cubie2, instead, is available in stock on several distributors. Claudio
On Tue, 2013-12-10 at 09:11 +0100, Claudio Scordino wrote:> Dear all, > > thank you for your help. > > > >> Arndale is probably the best bet. Allwinner based stuff (aka sunxi) is > >> less well tested overall but might have better availability, it is also > >> super cheap in most cases (e.g. cubieboard2/truck). > >> > > Ok, thanks Ian for the info! > > > > In case one wants to go for cubie, this is where all the information > > lives, right? > > http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_ARM_with_Virtualization_Extensions/Allwinner > > > > Is it still current? Have things got any better lately, from either > > Linux or Xen side? > > > > While this is, I think, the same for Arndale: > > http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_ARM_with_Virtualization_Extensions/Arndale > > which does look less "hacky", at least at a first glance... > > > > Claudio, perhaps you can investigate how easy it would be for you to get > > an Arndale board, and fallback on cubie2/truck if it''s actually that > > hard? > > I checked. > > Arndale says 4 weeks to ship, which may be a too long time (especially > if not respected).That''s down from the 8-12 weeks which it was over the summer when I ordered some at least! BTW, what we use is the "Arndale-5250 Package-B" from www.howchip.com ("Samsung Exynos 5 Dual Cortex-A15 core 1.7 GHz"). There is a newer Arndale Octa (4xA15+4xA7) Exynos 5420 based thing which we haven''t worked with yet, I''m not sure if they are even available. howchip says "coming soon", but for your usage I would avoid it for now.> Cubie2, instead, is available in stock on several distributors.FWIW I ordered a cubietruck (==cubieboard3) from cubietruck.com on Friday just gone and it shipped today, arrival in "10-20 working days". The shipping email says that Italy would be 15-25. The truck has twice as much RAM, but uses the same processor as the cb2 so I hope it will be up and running pretty quickly. Ian.
On 10/12/13 10:45, Ian Campbell wrote:> On Tue, 2013-12-10 at 09:11 +0100, Claudio Scordino wrote: >> Cubie2, instead, is available in stock on several distributors. > > FWIW I ordered a cubietruck (==cubieboard3) from cubietruck.com on > Friday just gone and it shipped today, arrival in "10-20 working days". > The shipping email says that Italy would be 15-25.FYI, when I ordered mine (delivery to Spain), it took something like 5 days to arrive, which was much more faster than what I expected. It was from this shop: https://www.miniand.com/products/Cubieboard%20A20%20Dev%20Board Roger.
On Tue, 2013-12-10 at 10:54 +0100, Roger Pau Monné wrote:> On 10/12/13 10:45, Ian Campbell wrote: > > On Tue, 2013-12-10 at 09:11 +0100, Claudio Scordino wrote: > >> Cubie2, instead, is available in stock on several distributors. > > > > FWIW I ordered a cubietruck (==cubieboard3) from cubietruck.com on > > Friday just gone and it shipped today, arrival in "10-20 working days". > > The shipping email says that Italy would be 15-25. > > FYI, when I ordered mine (delivery to Spain), it took something like 5 > days to arrive, which was much more faster than what I expected.Right, I'll be pretty surprised if it actually takes 10-20 days in practice, although perhaps Xmas post chaos might make a difference.> It was > from this shop: > > https://www.miniand.com/products/Cubieboard%20A20%20Dev%20BoardYes, I've heard good things about them elsewhere too. There is a list of suppliers at http://cubieboard.org/buy/ too which is pretty big now compared with the early days... Ian. _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xen.org http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel