wine users - Apr 2009 - LOTRO & Wine Performance Issues

Hello,

I just built 2 systems recently, one for myself, and one for my wife. My wife is
currently running Windows Vista 64, I am running openSUSE 11.1 x86_64. We play
Lord of the Rings Online, my problem is I am experience severe performance
issues under Linux.

My previous system was as follows:

Asus M2N32-SLI-Deluxe
AMD Athlon 5200 X2
4 GB Corsair XMS2X2048 4-4-4-12 800
EVGA Nvidia 7600 GT
Nvidia 180.29 Driver
WD Raptor 10k RPM, sata 1.5

With this configuration, I was able to run LOTRO(Lord of the Rings Online) on
Ultra High settings, though I did experience graphics lag at times.

The New configuration is as follows:

Asus M4A79 Deluxe
AMD Phenom II 940
4 GB Corsair Dominator 5-5-5-15 1066
EVGA GTX 260 Superclocked
Nvidia 180.29 Driver(Upgraded to .44 recently, didn't help the problem)
WD Raptor 10k RPM sata 1.5

With this configuration It detects optimal settings as low, and if I turn the
Graphics above low, I experience SEVERE graphics lag, followed by a crash to
desktop.


Both setups were/are running openSUSE 11.1 x86_64, with WINE 1.1.17. I have been
successfully running LOTRO in a WINE/Linux environment for about 1.5 years now,
So I am sure this isn't a conflict with LOTRO and WINE. I have tried
different versions of WINE, as well as different driver versions.

My wife running the exact same system, in Windows Vista, gets flawless
performance(yes I have tried swapping parts back and forth, to check for bad
hardware, to no avail).

My question is, is there a way to tell if this is a Driver Issue, a conflict
with the GTX 260 and WINE, or some other unknown variable? I have tried
everything from a OS re-install, to a swapping hardware, to drivers, to WINE
versions, to WINE DLL's. I cannot seem to fix this problem.

I have a fairly good understanding of the linux operating system, nothing to
advanced, so If someone could help me track down this problem, I would greatly
appreciate it.

CynicalPride wrote:
> I am experience severe performance issues under Linux.
Such as? How do they manifest themselves? What's the CPU doing? What and how
are you running?

Wine's d3d by definition will always be slower then native. ATM it's
about 1/3 to 1/2 of the native performance in d3d applications.

Alsp make sure you got rid of pulse audio or any other sound servers.

CynicalPride wrote:
> Vitamin,
> 
> It seems as if you did not read my entire post before replying. If you read
further down, you will see that when I activate higher graphics under my new
system configuration, it causes graphics lag, than a crash. This did not occur
under the old system.
> 
> I also had this setup running on my old hardware, flawlessly, with the
exception that my hardware was simply not powerful enough to maintain the game
at ultra high settings, during peak play hours. This was the reason for the
hardware upgrade.
> 
> This isn't a wine configuration error, I have had this running before,
and have been running this setup for about 1.5 years. These problem only started
happening when I built the new system.
> 
> I understand that WINE's native DX, isn't as fast as windows,
however, If I was running this on an EVGA 7600 GT, on ultra high with
"little" graphics lag, and now I have an EVGA GTX 260, and cannot even
run on low , without SEVERE lag and crashes, than I am pretty sure this
isn't an issue with wine/lotro running nicely together.
> 
> Edit: For giggles, and out of desperation, I ripped pulse audio out, and
tested, the problem remains. (I have used Pulse Audio for awhile, never had any
problems with it).

might it be the video memory auto detection?

Wine doesn't have a check for the GTX 260, only the 280 at the moment... it
needs to be added.

You can set your video memory size manually through regedit

HKLM, Software, Wine, Direct3D

create a key named VideoMemorySize, and set it to 896 (I think all GTX 260's
have 896MB)

James McKenzie wrote:
> 
> Did you have an Nvida card in the old system and an Intel video system
> in the new one?  I would go out and find a good NVida card to replace it
> with.  AMD/ATI and Intel (especially them) have poor Linux video drivers
> which means poor quality response to Wine.
> 
> James McKenzie

James,

I listed the specs for the system on my first post, The new system has an EVGA
GTX 260.

CynicalPride <wineforum-user at winehq.org> wrote on April Fools' Day:
>
>James McKenzie wrote:
>> 
>> Did you have an Nvida card in the old system and an Intel video system
>> in the new one?  I would go out and find a good NVida card to replace
it
>> with.  AMD/ATI and Intel (especially them) have poor Linux video
drivers
>> which means poor quality response to Wine.
>> 
>> James McKenzie
>
>
>James,
>
>I listed the specs for the system on my first post, The new system has an
EVGA GTX 260.
>
My Bad.  One question though, do you still have the old system and can you swap
out the video cards to eliminate this as a cause of the error?

You tried Jeffz' suggestion, but I would try a lower number like 768 or even
512 (I know the card has more memory than this, but anything is worth a try and
all it takes is starting and stopping Wine and wineserver to try it, much easier
than rebooting your system.)

James McKenzie

James,

I had already tried the lower numbers in VideoMemorySettings(I had been working
on this for about 2 weeks, before I even posted).

As far as the old system, I have it. However, I have 2 of the GTX 260's(I
build 2 identicle systems, 1 for me, 1 for my wife). I have swapped them back
and forth, they both work great in her Vista 64 environment, and both horribly
in my Linux Environment. However, I will try swapping out for the old 7600 GT,
just to narrow the problem down to something to do with the video card.

Thanks for the suggestion.

James,

Tried the old 7600 GT Card, was a huge performance boost. I have confirmed this
is an issue with the GTX 260, however it's not a hardware issue with the
card itself, I have 2 of them, and both of them are experiencing the same
problem. However they run flawlessly in a windows environment.


Anyone have any suggestions?

Warren,

Yea, I tried that as well, installed DX9.0C from winetricks, no performance
gain, and DX reports my card as unknown. Even after manually identifying it in
the registry. Thanks for the suggestion.


CynicalPride

And what if you do not install DirectX, but use native dxdiagn?
Hm, will vote for that feature request! :)

2009/4/5 CynicalPride <wineforum-user at winehq.org>
> Warren,
>
> Yea, I tried that as well, installed DX9.0C from winetricks, no performance
> gain, and DX reports my card as unknown. Even after manually identifying it
> in the registry. Thanks for the suggestion.
>
>
> CynicalPride
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