wine users - Oct 2008 - running command line apps without X-Windows

I'm interested in running some command-line binaries, specifically the
Microsoft compilers and linkers, on Mac OS X. WINE (more specifically Darwine)
would seem to be a step in the right direction. It seems to me that since these
kinds of programs have limited interaction with the operating system, they stand
a good chance of running well within WINE. However, WINE seems to be oriented
more toward GUI stuff, and wants to launch some kind of X-Windows session. Can I
make this dependency go away somehow?

integerpoet wrote:
> I'm interested in running some command-line binaries, specifically the
Microsoft compilers and linkers, on Mac OS X. WINE (more specifically Darwine)
would seem to be a step in the right direction. It seems to me that since these
kinds of programs have limited interaction with the operating system, they stand
a good chance of running well within WINE. However, WINE seems to be oriented
more toward GUI stuff, and wants to launch some kind of X-Windows session. Can I
make this dependency go away somehow?

If these programs (and the API they call) don't need to create window to
function, then you can run them on x-less setup (xorg library is still
required). But if these programs (or API they call) create a single window then
you have to run them within valid X session.

This is API limitation and Wine can't do anything about it.

You will need to find and use a DOSBOX type program.  [Dar]wine requires the use
of X11 and may in the future support the native Aqua interface.

I am assuming that you are not trying to run Microsoft Visual C++/C# (MSVC)
compilers as well.  These do require that the Windows environment be present and
running, although they can be run from a Command Prompt window in some cases.

James McKenzie
>From: integerpoet <wineforum-user at winehq.org>
>Sent: Oct 9, 2008 2:07 PM
>To: wine-users at winehq.org
>Subject: [Wine]  running command line apps without X-Windows
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>I'm interested in running some command-line binaries, specifically the
Microsoft compilers and linkers, on Mac OS X. WINE (more specifically Darwine)
would seem to be a step in the right direction. It seems to me that since these
kinds of programs have limited interaction with the operating system, they stand
a good chance of running well within WINE. However, WINE seems to be oriented
more toward GUI stuff, and wants to launch some kind of X-Windows session. Can I
make this dependency go away somehow?
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vitamin wrote:
> If these programs (and the API they call) don't need to create window
to function, then you can run them on x-less setup (xorg library is still
required). But if these programs (or API they call) create a single window then
you have to run them within valid X session.

Given what I know of Windows programming, my bet would be that even a compiler
would might well need a hidden "window" in order to have it listen for
some message or other. Even this might be acceptable as long as I can invoke the
compiler as if it were a native command-line app. (I don't think I would
need piping or redirection.) Any chance of that?