openssh unix dev - Jul 2020 - Support for macOS feth devices

On Wed, 15 Jul 2020, Peter Stuge wrote:
> is GPL-licensed, so a derivative of that can't be integrated into
OpenSSH.
A derivative of it, that exposes a general API to do tap-device-like
things using stdio and command line options, could be called over its
general API from OpenSSH though. Even be developed separately (this
would, in fact, even help).

bye,
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Unfortunately,
https://www.zerotier.com/how-zerotier-eliminated-kernel-extensions-on-macos/ is
the best blog post I have seen so far on this topic. There is also still
the chance, as mentioned in that post, that Apple updates NetworkDriverKit
to provide support for creating tap-like devices from userspace. I'm not
necessarily holding my breath though.

Thorsten, supposing such an API were developed as you suggested, what is
the likelihood use of such an API could be pushed into sys_tun_open and its
associated functions? I am weighing the risk of creating such a general API
only to see that it will be difficult to have its use integrated into ssh.

Charles

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 11:52 AM Thorsten Glaser <t.glaser at tarent.de>
wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Jul 2020, Peter Stuge wrote:
>
> > is GPL-licensed, so a derivative of that can't be integrated into
> OpenSSH.
>
> A derivative of it, that exposes a general API to do tap-device-like
> things using stdio and command line options, could be called over its
> general API from OpenSSH though. Even be developed separately (this
> would, in fact, even help).
>
> bye,
> //mirabilos
> --
> ?MyISAM tables -will- get corrupted eventually. This is a fact of life. ?
> ?mysql is about as much database as ms access? ? ?MSSQL at least descends
> from a database? ?it's a rebranded SyBase? ?MySQL however was born from
a
> flatfile and went downhill from there? ? ?at least jetDB doesn?t claim to
> be a database?  (#nosec)    ??? Please let MySQL and MariaDB finally die!
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On Wed, 15 Jul 2020, Charles Celerier wrote:
> Thorsten, supposing such an API were developed as you suggested, what is
> the likelihood use of such an API could be pushed into sys_tun_open and its
I don?t understand the question. The process to do that would (have to)
be standalone and called as a subprocess by ssh.

I don?t know if the OpenSSH developers consider this feasible.

bye,
//mirabilos
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