朴素 via llvm-dev
2021-Jan-04 12:38 UTC
[llvm-dev] Floating point ordered and unordered comparisons
Hi All, I have some questions about Floating point ordered and unordered comparisons, I did some searching and found link below http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/2013-July/063571.html But I still don't quite understand Floating point ordered and unordered comparisons. For example, the following code ``` bool cmp1(float a) { if (a > 0.0) return true; else return false; } bool cmp2(float a) { if (!(a <= 0.0)) return true; else return false; } ``` The generated ir code is similar to the following: ``` define zeroext i1 @_Z4cmp1f(float %a) { entry: %cmp = fcmp ogt float %a, 0.000000e+00 ret i1 %cmp } define zeroext i1 @_Z4cmp2f(float %a) { entry: %cmp = fcmp ugt float %a, 0.000000e+00 ret i1 %cmp } ``` If the parameter passed is NaN in this example, the result of cmp1 is false and the result of cmp2 is true. In this case, the result is completely opposite. When will we get 'fcmp ugt' and when will we get 'fcmp ugt' ? When comparing ordered and unorder can be converted ? Such as converting an ordered less than "setolt" into unordered greater than "setuge" operation. Thanks in advance, Lijia He -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20210104/573e028d/attachment.html>
Cranmer, Joshua via llvm-dev
2021-Jan-04 21:07 UTC
[llvm-dev] Floating point ordered and unordered comparisons
I assume your question is actually “when will we get fcmp ogt and when will we get fcmp ugt?” Most languages prescribe that their comparisons are all ordered. So when lowering an operation like a < b, the front-end will generate a fcmp olt. The C language does not prescribe any way to get an unordered comparison, and so the frontend will never directly generate an unordered operation. Where unordered floating-point comparisons are generated is most frequently by optimizations. Note that there are four possible states for comparing floating point numbers: unordered, equal, less-than, or greater-than. The fcmp instruction has 16 possible comparisons, which will return true for a certain subset of those comparisons (with there being a useless fcmp true and fcmp false variant that unconditionally returns true or false). Negating an fcmp instruction is equivalent to using an fcmp comparison that flips the true/false state: if you negate a fcmp that returns true for only the less-than state, that is equivalent to an fcmp that returns true for unordered, equal, or greater-than. In other words, not (fcmp olt) is equivalent to fcmp uge. Your mention of setogt/setule makes me think that you are interested in the interaction with SelectionDAG. SelectionDAG actually supports three different floating-point comparison types: ordered, unordered, and don’t-care. The latter class appears when the fcmp instruction has the nnan fast-math flag set, appears as a setgt SDNode instead of setogt or setugt, and can validly be implemented by either an unordered or ordered comparison instruction, whichever is less expensive to implement in hardware. If you’re implementing a backend, carefully check the documentation of your hardware to see what the behavior of instructions is when presented with NaNs. From: llvm-dev <llvm-dev-bounces at lists.llvm.org> On Behalf Of ?? via llvm-dev Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 7:39 To: llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> Subject: [llvm-dev] Floating point ordered and unordered comparisons Hi All, I have some questions about Floating point ordered and unordered comparisons, I did some searching and found link below http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/2013-July/063571.html But I still don't quite understand Floating point ordered and unordered comparisons. For example, the following code ``` bool cmp1(float a) { if (a > 0.0) return true; else return false; } bool cmp2(float a) { if (!(a <= 0.0)) return true; else return false; } ``` The generated ir code is similar to the following: ``` define zeroext i1 @_Z4cmp1f(float %a) { entry: %cmp = fcmp ogt float %a, 0.000000e+00 ret i1 %cmp } define zeroext i1 @_Z4cmp2f(float %a) { entry: %cmp = fcmp ugt float %a, 0.000000e+00 ret i1 %cmp } ``` If the parameter passed is NaN in this example, the result of cmp1 is false and the result of cmp2 is true. In this case, the result is completely opposite. When will we get 'fcmp ugt' and when will we get 'fcmp ugt' ? When comparing ordered and unorder can be converted ? Such as converting an ordered less than "setolt" into unordered greater than "setuge" operation. Thanks in advance, Lijia He -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20210104/0169560f/attachment.html>
Wang, Pengfei via llvm-dev
2021-Jan-05 15:30 UTC
[llvm-dev] Floating point ordered and unordered comparisons
Hi Lijia, IEEE 754 standard has a strict definition on comparison predicates. In short, symbol “<=” is not the flip of “>”. There’s no such symbol in C language currently (Maybe in draft, I’m not sure), but LLVM IR does support all predicates. So the opposition of predicates ogt (“>” is C) is ule and the opposition of predicates ole (“<=” is C) is ugt. That’s why you get opposite results from cmp1 and cmp2. The equivalent to cmp1 in IR is: define zeroext i1 @_Z4cmp2f(float %a) { entry: %cmp = fcmp ule float %a, 0.000000e+00 %not = xor i1 %cmp, -1 ret i1 %not } Thanks Pengfei From: llvm-dev <llvm-dev-bounces at lists.llvm.org> On Behalf Of ?? via llvm-dev Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 8:39 PM To: llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> Subject: [llvm-dev] Floating point ordered and unordered comparisons Hi All, I have some questions about Floating point ordered and unordered comparisons, I did some searching and found link below http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/2013-July/063571.html But I still don't quite understand Floating point ordered and unordered comparisons. For example, the following code ``` bool cmp1(float a) { if (a > 0.0) return true; else return false; } bool cmp2(float a) { if (!(a <= 0.0)) return true; else return false; } ``` The generated ir code is similar to the following: ``` define zeroext i1 @_Z4cmp1f(float %a) { entry: %cmp = fcmp ogt float %a, 0.000000e+00 ret i1 %cmp } define zeroext i1 @_Z4cmp2f(float %a) { entry: %cmp = fcmp ugt float %a, 0.000000e+00 ret i1 %cmp } ``` If the parameter passed is NaN in this example, the result of cmp1 is false and the result of cmp2 is true. In this case, the result is completely opposite. When will we get 'fcmp ugt' and when will we get 'fcmp ugt' ? When comparing ordered and unorder can be converted ? Such as converting an ordered less than "setolt" into unordered greater than "setuge" operation. Thanks in advance, Lijia He -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20210105/f775995c/attachment.html>