Justin Hibbits via llvm-dev
2020-Jun-19 14:28 UTC
[llvm-dev] Inclusive language in LLVM: can we rename `master` branch?
On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 14:45:37 +0100 Renato Golin via llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:> On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 at 12:57, Hal Finkel via llvm-dev > <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote: > > I like "dev" as an option here. It's short, and in addition, > > conveys the fact that the development happens in that branch. > > "main" in fine too, although it doesn't have has much semantic > > benefit. > > "main" shares the first two letters of "master", and it's nice for TAB > completion. :)I'm still confused why the name needs to be changed. It's a branch upon which (nearly) all other branches are based, and rebased. Why is 'master' such a horrible name for it? There are no negative connotations with a branch name. Anyone who reads more into it, the problem is on them and them alone. - Justin
Keane, Erich via llvm-dev
2020-Jun-19 14:46 UTC
[llvm-dev] Inclusive language in LLVM: can we rename `master` branch?
If the name of our branch causes anxiety/difficulty for a significant portion of our population, it is literally the least we can do to choose a word that better respects the last few centuries of world history. That said, I kinda hate 'main' as it is my stand-in for 'how to describe the active branch in an upstream/downstream', so it'll lead to some confusing conversations. That said, it seems the programming community has already chosen main as the replacement, so I guess I'll have to just figure out that 'Main is on first' a couple times in the next few months. -----Original Message----- From: llvm-dev <llvm-dev-bounces at lists.llvm.org> On Behalf Of Justin Hibbits via llvm-dev Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 7:28 AM To: Renato Golin via llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> Cc: nd <nd at arm.com> Subject: Re: [llvm-dev] Inclusive language in LLVM: can we rename `master` branch? On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 14:45:37 +0100 Renato Golin via llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:> On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 at 12:57, Hal Finkel via llvm-dev > <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote: > > I like "dev" as an option here. It's short, and in addition, conveys > > the fact that the development happens in that branch. > > "main" in fine too, although it doesn't have has much semantic > > benefit. > > "main" shares the first two letters of "master", and it's nice for TAB > completion. :)I'm still confused why the name needs to be changed. It's a branch upon which (nearly) all other branches are based, and rebased. Why is 'master' such a horrible name for it? There are no negative connotations with a branch name. Anyone who reads more into it, the problem is on them and them alone. - Justin _______________________________________________ LLVM Developers mailing list llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev
Justin Hibbits via llvm-dev
2020-Jun-19 14:58 UTC
[llvm-dev] Inclusive language in LLVM: can we rename `master` branch?
On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 14:46:19 +0000 "Keane, Erich via llvm-dev" <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:> If the name of our branch causes anxiety/difficulty for a significant > portion of our population, it is literally the least we can do to > choose a word that better respects the last few centuries of world > history.Honestly, if the name of a branch causes anxiety/difficulty, that's an issue on that population. It has absolutely no relation to the dark history of the world, none at all. Anyone who casts it in such a light is either signalling or trolling. I won't stop any kind of rename, but renames have to be done for a technical merit, not a political correctness merit, or it has no value at all. If renaming the branch to 'main' or 'trunk' makes it easier for people to reason about the branch setup then fine. But if it's "to address a past wrong that has absolutely no relation to the project" it needs to be rethought. And I'll go so far as to say that this frivolous renaming occurring across the board is doing more harm than good in the name of 'respecting the last few centuries', as it forces people to highlight that aspect of history, and not move on as a society. A master branch is the source of truth. It's where development branches branch from, and where they inevitably merge back into.
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