Chris Ye via llvm-dev
2019-Jul-15 03:58 UTC
[llvm-dev] How to contribute on LLVM project as beginner
Hi LLVM project Leaders, I am a software engineer working on several other open source projects, recently I am very interested in LLVM technology, espically on backend part. I have taken two months studying the documents from llvm.org in my spare time. As a beginner, I would like to contribute some code to LLVM project, from the "Google Summer of Code 2019", I found one project "Debug Info should have no effect on codegen" that I may able to contribute, not sure if the project has already been completed? If there are still tasks exist, how can I join in? Or is that any other project I can work on? I would spend 10~20 hours on LLVM development every week as I want to gather experience to find a job as LLVM developer in the furture. I am a quickly learning, I would be very appricate if you could help me and give me some guides, so that I would run faster on my way to LLVM field. Many thanks. ----------------------------------------------------------------- LLVM Debug Info should have no effect on codegen Description of the project: Adding Debug Info (compiling with `clang -g`) shouldn't change the generated code at all. Unfortunately we have bugs. These are usually not too hard to fix and a good way to discover new part of the codebase! We suggest building object files both ways and disassembling the text sections, which will give cleaner diffs than comparing .s files. Expected results: Reduced test cases, bug reports with analysis (e.g., which pass is responsible), possibly patches. Confirmed Mentor: Paul Robinson Desirable skills: Intermediate knowledge of C++, some familiarity with x86 or ARM instruction set. Best Regards, Chris Ye -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20190715/7d9b261f/attachment.html>
via llvm-dev
2019-Jul-16 17:40 UTC
[llvm-dev] How to contribute on LLVM project as beginner
Hi Chris,
"Debug info should have no effect on codegen" would be a fine project
for you; nobody is working on it that I know of. Another way to contribute
would be to go to our Bugzilla (bugs.llvm.org) and search for open bugs with the
"beginner" keyword.
Regarding the "debug info has no effect on codegen" project,
unfortunately I am having IT issues that keep me from providing much in the way
of specific suggestions, so what follows is fairly generic.
In principle, you compile some piece of code with and without -g, and see if
there is any difference in the generated instructions. My experience is that you
want to compile to a .o file, and then use a disassembler to dump the text
sections. This will give you a cleaner diff than using -S to generate assembler
files.
I also recommend compiling with `-ffunction-sections` and probably
`-fexceptions`. The former will put each compiled function into its own
object-file section, so that differences in one function won't affect the
disassembly of a later function. The latter option should work around one
fairly intractable known difference: -g will cause the compiler to emit
directives to produce call-frame information, and these tend to act as
instruction-scheduling barriers. Using -fexceptions (I am 95% sure that is the
correct option) should cause the non-dash-g compilation to use the same
directives, and avoid that known difference.
You can repeat this experiment with different optimization levels, as
differences are far more likely to show up with optimization.
Once you find a difference, you can begin experimenting with ways to identify
specific compiler passes that are contributing to the difference. A very useful
tool here is the backend option `-opt-bisect-limit=N` where N is the number of
passes to execute. Because it is a backend option, you would use it this way:
clang -c -O2 -mllvm -opt-bisect-limit=100 foo.c -o foo.o
clang -c -O2 -mllvm -opt-bisect-limit=100 foo.c -g -o foo-g.o
Then disassemble and diff as usual. After you have identified a problematic
pass, you can try your hand at fixing it yourself, or you can file a bug (with a
reduced reproducer if at all possible) and move on to another sample.
Of course you will need some sample source code to run experiments on. This can
be anything convenient. You could try it on any personal projects you have, or
you could find a random code generator, or whatever you like. Some people have
recommended LLVM's own 'test-suite' project although I have not
looked at it in any detail.
Good luck, and feel free to post additional questions on llvm-dev if you run
into any problems.
--paulr
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To: llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
Subject: [llvm-dev] How to contribute on LLVM project as beginner
Hi LLVM project Leaders,
I am a software engineer working on several other open source projects, recently
I am very interested in LLVM technology, espically on backend part. I have taken
two months studying the documents from llvm.org in my spare time. As a beginner,
I would like to contribute some code to LLVM project, from the "Google
Summer of Code 2019", I found one project "Debug Info should have no
effect on codegen" that I may able to contribute, not sure if the project
has already been completed? If there are still tasks exist, how can I join in?
Or is that any other project I can work on? I would spend 10~20 hours on LLVM
development every week as I want to gather experience to find a job as LLVM
developer in the furture. I am a quickly learning, I would be very appricate if
you could help me and give me some guides, so that I would run faster on my way
to LLVM field. Many thanks.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
LLVM
Debug Info should have no effect on codegen
Description of the project: Adding Debug Info (compiling with `clang -g`)
shouldn't change the generated code at all. Unfortunately we have bugs.
These are usually not too hard to fix and a good way to discover new part of the
codebase! We suggest building object files both ways and disassembling the text
sections, which will give cleaner diffs than comparing .s files.
Expected results: Reduced test cases, bug reports with analysis (e.g., which
pass is responsible), possibly patches.
Confirmed Mentor: Paul Robinson
Desirable skills: Intermediate knowledge of C++, some familiarity with x86 or
ARM instruction set.
Best Regards,
Chris Ye
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Chris Ye via llvm-dev
2019-Jul-23 08:09 UTC
[llvm-dev] How to contribute on LLVM project as beginner
Hi Paul,
Thanks for your useful guidelines, may I confirm with you the steps list below
is correct or not?
1. find sample code (.c)
2. using different options(pass) to compile sample code by clang with/without
"-g"
3. objdump the output.o and outout-g.o
4. compare two file of text section check if there has any difference.
5. if find difference, great, file bug and fix it.
Please correct me if I miss something.
Follow the steps,
* I used sample code (foo.c)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
int foo() { return 42; }
int bar() { return foo(); }
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
* created a compare tool (compare.sh)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
#!/bin/bash
options=$1
file=$2
clang -c -ffunction-sections -fexceptions -mllvm -opt-bisect-limit=200 $1 $file
-o output.o
clang -c -ffunction-sections -fexceptions -mllvm -opt-bisect-limit=200 $1 $file
-o output-g.o
objdump -d output.o > output.objdump
objdump -d output-g.o > output-g.objdump
diff -uNar output.objdump output-g.objdump
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
* Then run the compassion tests
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
$ ./compare.sh -O0 foo.c
$ ./compare.sh -O1 foo.c
$ ./compare.sh -O2 foo.c
$ ./compare.sh -O3 foo.c
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The diff result is the same. How can I find the bug? Do the sample code I used
too simple? Or need I add other more pass options? Please help to correct my
steps if I missed something. Thanks you very much.
Best Regards,
Chris Ye
At 2019-07-17 01:40:43, paul.robinson at sony.com wrote:
Hi Chris,
"Debug info should have no effect on codegen" would be a fine project
for you; nobody is working on it that I know of. Another way to contribute
would be to go to our Bugzilla (bugs.llvm.org) and search for open bugs with the
"beginner" keyword.
Regarding the "debug info has no effect on codegen" project,
unfortunately I am having IT issues that keep me from providing much in the way
of specific suggestions, so what follows is fairly generic.
In principle, you compile some piece of code with and without –g, and see if
there is any difference in the generated instructions. My experience is that you
want to compile to a .o file, and then use a disassembler to dump the text
sections. This will give you a cleaner diff than using –S to generate assembler
files.
I also recommend compiling with `-ffunction-sections` and probably
`-fexceptions`. The former will put each compiled function into its own
object-file section, so that differences in one function won't affect the
disassembly of a later function. The latter option should work around one
fairly intractable known difference: -g will cause the compiler to emit
directives to produce call-frame information, and these tend to act as
instruction-scheduling barriers. Using –fexceptions (I am 95% sure that is the
correct option) should cause the non-dash-g compilation to use the same
directives, and avoid that known difference.
You can repeat this experiment with different optimization levels, as
differences are far more likely to show up with optimization.
Once you find a difference, you can begin experimenting with ways to identify
specific compiler passes that are contributing to the difference. A very useful
tool here is the backend option `-opt-bisect-limit=N` where N is the number of
passes to execute. Because it is a backend option, you would use it this way:
clang –c –O2 –mllvm –opt-bisect-limit=100 foo.c –o foo.o
clang –c –O2 –mllvm –opt-bisect-limit=100 foo.c –g –o foo-g.o
Then disassemble and diff as usual. After you have identified a problematic
pass, you can try your hand at fixing it yourself, or you can file a bug (with a
reduced reproducer if at all possible) and move on to another sample.
Of course you will need some sample source code to run experiments on. This can
be anything convenient. You could try it on any personal projects you have, or
you could find a random code generator, or whatever you like. Some people have
recommended LLVM's own 'test-suite' project although I have not
looked at it in any detail.
Good luck, and feel free to post additional questions on llvm-dev if you run
into any problems.
--paulr
From: llvm-dev [mailto:llvm-dev-bounces at lists.llvm.org] On Behalf Of Chris Ye
via llvm-dev
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 11:59 PM
To: llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
Subject: [llvm-dev] How to contribute on LLVM project as beginner
Hi LLVM project Leaders,
I am a software engineer working on several other open source projects, recently
I am very interested in LLVM technology, espically on backend part. I have taken
two months studying the documents from llvm.org in my spare time. As a beginner,
I would like to contribute some code to LLVM project, from the "Google
Summer of Code 2019", I found one project "Debug Info should have no
effect on codegen" that I may able to contribute, not sure if the project
has already been completed? If there are still tasks exist, how can I join in?
Or is that any other project I can work on? I would spend 10~20 hours on LLVM
development every week as I want to gather experience to find a job as LLVM
developer in the furture. I am a quickly learning, I would be very appricate if
you could help me and give me some guides, so that I would run faster on my way
to LLVM field. Many thanks.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
LLVM
Debug Info should have no effect on codegen
Description of the project: Adding Debug Info (compiling with `clang -g`)
shouldn't change the generated code at all. Unfortunately we have bugs.
These are usually not too hard to fix and a good way to discover new part of the
codebase! We suggest building object files both ways and disassembling the text
sections, which will give cleaner diffs than comparing .s files.
Expected results: Reduced test cases, bug reports with analysis (e.g., which
pass is responsible), possibly patches.
Confirmed Mentor: Paul Robinson
Desirable skills: Intermediate knowledge of C++, some familiarity with x86 or
ARM instruction set.
Best Regards,
Chris Ye
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