Joan Lluch via llvm-dev
2019-Jul-09 12:46 UTC
[llvm-dev] RFC: changing variable naming rules in LLVM codebase
Hi Rui, I’m totally positive on switching to camelCase convention. In fact I have been always uncomfortable with the current naming approach. My only suggestion/concern is that we should provide a transition path not only for the trunk code in the repository, but for eventual out-of-trunk code with implementations of custom architectures. I have currently a custom backend implemented on top of LLVM 9 and therefore this change will surely break my code. I assume that developers affected by this will be able to run the converting tools to fix their own code. John> On 9 Jul 2019, at 09:23, Rui Ueyama via llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote: > > Thanks, Chris. > > Looks like everybody is at least mildly comfortable with my variable name renaming change, so I'll to submit that change to lld subdirectory soon. If you have any objections, please let me know. Note that this is not the end of my effort but actually the beginning of it. As Chris said, I believe we should do this to the entire LLVM codebase. I'm planning to do that directory-by-directory basis. > >> On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 2:03 PM Chris Lattner <clattner at nondot.org> wrote: >> This looks really great to me Rui, and I’m also pleased to see the positive comments on the review thread. Thank you for driving this forward! >> >> -Chris >> >> >>> On Jul 4, 2019, at 9:50 PM, Rui Ueyama <ruiu at google.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I wrote a tool to batch-rename variable names so that they are in camelCase, and I applied the tool to lld subdirectory. You can see my change at https://reviews.llvm.org/D64121. If you have any comments, please reply. >>> >>> If people are happy about this change, I can do the same thing for other directories including LLVM itself and Clang. >>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 6:34 PM Rui Ueyama <ruiu at google.com> wrote: >>>>> On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 6:27 PM Michael Platings <Michael.Platings at arm.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Rui, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> As per the provisional plan [1] we’re still at step 1: improving git blame. The status of this is that there are some fairly mature patches in the Git project’s queue [2], and I’m hopeful that it will be accepted in something close to its current form. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> But if you can get started on steps 2 & 3 i.e. making forks available with the possible changes applied then that would be great. My hope is that once everyone can see what the options really look like then it will be easier to reach consensus. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Sure, I'll try to do that. I'll probably start with finding identifiers and typenames that will conflict after the naming scheme change and rename them so that they won't conflict. The number of such symbols would hopefully be small, and submitting such renaming changes wouldn't be distracting. After that, I think I can create a mechanical change to rename variables to see how it will look like. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> -Michael >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [1] https://llvm.org/docs/Proposals/VariableNames.html#provisional-plan >>>>> >>>>> [2] https://public-inbox.org/git/20190515214503.77162-8-brho at google.com/T/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Rui Ueyama <ruiu at google.com> >>>>> Sent: 07 June 2019 08:42 >>>>> To: Chris Lattner <clattner at nondot.org> >>>>> Cc: Michael Platings <Michael.Platings at arm.com>; llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org; nd <nd at arm.com> >>>>> Subject: Re: [llvm-dev] RFC: changing variable naming rules in LLVM codebase >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This thread is not active for a while, but I'm still interested in seeing a change. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Reading through this thread, looks like we can agree that we want to change the local variable naming scheme so that they start with a lowercase letter. Besides that, there were discussions about lower_case, camelCase, m_ prefix, and each argument seems as convincing as others. I'm not sure what is the decision making process in a situation like this. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'd personally vote for changing local variables to start with a lowercase letter and keep other naming conventions as-is to make it a minimum change. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> As I stated before, I'm happy to make a change to lld to see how a naming convention change will look like, but in order to do that I need to get at least a rough consensus to do that. What is a way to proceed? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 3:00 PM Chris Lattner via llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Michael, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I’m still very interested in seeing a change here. If someone is interested in seeing a codebase using the proposed camelBack convention for variables names, the MLIR codebase is public and uses it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If you’re curious to see what this looks like in practice, there are lots of examples in the codebase, here is an example .cpp file, here is another, here is an example header. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> We are still working our way through open sourcing logistics (not all the code is out yet), but we would still like to contribute at least parts of this to LLVM if the project is interested. [[This is just an FYI, not itself a proposal yet - one will be coming when we’re ready.]] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -Chris >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On May 21, 2019, at 3:01 AM, Michael Platings via llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi folks, >>>>> >>>>> Git is on its way to learning how to ignore commits, allowing us to do variable renaming and other small refactorings without breaking git blame. >>>>> >>>>> It's like git-hyper-blame [1] but significantly more powerful as it uses fuzzy matching to match lines, including lines that may have been split or joined. >>>>> >>>>> A preview release of Git with this new feature is at: https://github.com/mplatings/git/releases/tag/ignore-rev >>>>> >>>>> Some of you have told me that you already have to spend time running git blame multiple times to look past uninteresting commits so I'd love for you to give this feature a try and see if it helps you. Your feedback will be very valuable. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> -Michael >>>>> >>>>> [1] https://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/chrome-infra-docs/flat/depot_tools/docs/html/git-hyper-blame.html >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> LLVM Developers mailing list >>>>> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org >>>>> https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> LLVM Developers mailing list >>>>> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org >>>>> https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev >>>>> >> > _______________________________________________ > LLVM Developers mailing list > llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org > https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20190709/cea460a5/attachment.html>
Rui Ueyama via llvm-dev
2019-Jul-10 04:18 UTC
[llvm-dev] RFC: changing variable naming rules in LLVM codebase
Hi Joan, On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 9:46 PM Joan Lluch <joan.lluch at icloud.com> wrote:> Hi Rui, > > I’m totally positive on switching to camelCase convention. In fact I have > been always uncomfortable with the current naming approach. > > My only suggestion/concern is that we should provide a transition path not > only for the trunk code in the repository, but for eventual out-of-trunk > code with implementations of custom architectures. I have currently a > custom backend implemented on top of LLVM 9 and therefore this change will > surely break my code. I assume that developers affected by this will be > able to run the converting tools to fix their own code. >The tool that I wrote for lld's style conversion should work for out-of-trunk code, so as I described in the previous email, third-party code maintainer should be able to use the tool to convert the style first in their repositories and then rebase in order to avoid large merge conflicts. The tool needs to be polished to convert other subprojects such as clang, but I'll keep your request in mind. I'll try my best to provide a smooth transition path for out-of-trunk code for any change that I'll submit for the style change. John> > On 9 Jul 2019, at 09:23, Rui Ueyama via llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> > wrote: > > Thanks, Chris. > > Looks like everybody is at least mildly comfortable with my variable name > renaming change, so I'll to submit that change to lld subdirectory soon. If > you have any objections, please let me know. Note that this is not the end > of my effort but actually the beginning of it. As Chris said, I believe we > should do this to the entire LLVM codebase. I'm planning to do that > directory-by-directory basis. > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 2:03 PM Chris Lattner <clattner at nondot.org> wrote: > >> This looks really great to me Rui, and I’m also pleased to see the >> positive comments on the review thread. Thank you for driving this forward! >> >> -Chris >> >> >> On Jul 4, 2019, at 9:50 PM, Rui Ueyama <ruiu at google.com> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I wrote a tool <https://reviews.llvm.org/D64123> to batch-rename >> variable names so that they are in camelCase, and I applied the tool to lld >> subdirectory. You can see my change at https://reviews.llvm.org/D64121. >> If you have any comments, please reply. >> >> If people are happy about this change, I can do the same thing for other >> directories including LLVM itself and Clang. >> >> On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 6:34 PM Rui Ueyama <ruiu at google.com> wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 6:27 PM Michael Platings < >>> Michael.Platings at arm.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Rui, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> As per the provisional plan [1] we’re still at step 1: improving git >>>> blame. The status of this is that there are some fairly mature patches in >>>> the Git project’s queue [2], and I’m hopeful that it will be accepted in >>>> something close to its current form. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> But if you can get started on steps 2 & 3 i.e. making forks available >>>> with the possible changes applied then that would be great. My hope is that >>>> once everyone can see what the options really look like then it will be >>>> easier to reach consensus. >>>> >>> >>> Sure, I'll try to do that. I'll probably start with finding identifiers >>> and typenames that will conflict after the naming scheme change and rename >>> them so that they won't conflict. The number of such symbols would >>> hopefully be small, and submitting such renaming changes wouldn't be >>> distracting. After that, I think I can create a mechanical change to rename >>> variables to see how it will look like. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> -Michael >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> [1] https://llvm.org/docs/Proposals/VariableNames.html#provisional-plan >>>> >>>> [2] >>>> https://public-inbox.org/git/20190515214503.77162-8-brho at google.com/T/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Rui Ueyama <ruiu at google.com> >>>> *Sent:* 07 June 2019 08:42 >>>> *To:* Chris Lattner <clattner at nondot.org> >>>> *Cc:* Michael Platings <Michael.Platings at arm.com>; >>>> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org; nd <nd at arm.com> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [llvm-dev] RFC: changing variable naming rules in LLVM >>>> codebase >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This thread is not active for a while, but I'm still interested in >>>> seeing a change. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Reading through this thread, looks like we can agree that we want to >>>> change the local variable naming scheme so that they start with a lowercase >>>> letter. Besides that, there were discussions about lower_case, camelCase, >>>> m_ prefix, and each argument seems as convincing as others. I'm not sure >>>> what is the decision making process in a situation like this. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I'd personally vote for changing local variables to start with a >>>> lowercase letter and keep other naming conventions as-is to make it a >>>> minimum change. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> As I stated before, I'm happy to make a change to lld to see how a >>>> naming convention change will look like, but in order to do that I need to >>>> get at least a rough consensus to do that. What is a way to proceed? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 3:00 PM Chris Lattner via llvm-dev < >>>> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Michael, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I’m still very interested in seeing a change here. If someone is >>>> interested in seeing a codebase using the proposed camelBack convention for >>>> variables names, the MLIR codebase is public >>>> <https://github.com/tensorflow/mlir> and uses it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If you’re curious to see what this looks like in practice, there are >>>> lots of examples in the codebase, here is an example .cpp file >>>> <https://github.com/tensorflow/mlir/blob/master/lib/Transforms/LoopUnrollAndJam.cpp> >>>> , here is another >>>> <https://github.com/tensorflow/mlir/blob/master/lib/Parser/Parser.cpp>, >>>> here is an example header >>>> <https://github.com/tensorflow/mlir/blob/master/include/mlir/IR/Location.h> >>>> . >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> We are still working our way through open sourcing logistics (not all >>>> the code is out yet), but we would still like to contribute at least parts >>>> of this to LLVM if the project is interested. [[This is just an FYI, not >>>> itself a proposal yet - one will be coming when we’re ready.]] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -Chris >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 21, 2019, at 3:01 AM, Michael Platings via llvm-dev < >>>> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi folks, >>>> >>>> Git is on its way to learning how to ignore commits, allowing us to do >>>> variable renaming and other small refactorings without breaking git blame. >>>> >>>> It's like git-hyper-blame [1] but significantly more powerful as it >>>> uses fuzzy matching to match lines, including lines that may have been >>>> split or joined. >>>> >>>> A preview release of Git with this new feature is at: >>>> https://github.com/mplatings/git/releases/tag/ignore-rev >>>> >>>> Some of you have told me that you already have to spend time running >>>> git blame multiple times to look past uninteresting commits so I'd love for >>>> you to give this feature a try and see if it helps you. Your feedback will >>>> be very valuable. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> -Michael >>>> >>>> [1] >>>> https://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/chrome-infra-docs/flat/depot_tools/docs/html/git-hyper-blame.html >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> LLVM Developers mailing list >>>> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org >>>> https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> LLVM Developers mailing list >>>> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org >>>> https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev >>>> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ > LLVM Developers mailing list > llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org > https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev > >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20190710/56c9938e/attachment.html>
Alex Brachet-Mialot via llvm-dev
2019-Jul-10 11:12 UTC
[llvm-dev] RFC: changing variable naming rules in LLVM codebase
Rui, I have created D64474 to change comments explicitly stating the parameter names for constants ( /*parameterName=*/<constant> ). I did this by hand to match the new variable names. Do you know if there would be a way to update these comments with a tool similar to what you used to change these names? Perhaps it would be much more difficult, I'm guessing clang's AST doesn't have a way to describe comments? It's obviously not a huge deal to have these changed it could be done over time. Best, Alex On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 12:18 AM Rui Ueyama via llvm-dev < llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:> Hi Joan, > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 9:46 PM Joan Lluch <joan.lluch at icloud.com> wrote: > >> Hi Rui, >> >> I’m totally positive on switching to camelCase convention. In fact I have >> been always uncomfortable with the current naming approach. >> >> My only suggestion/concern is that we should provide a transition path >> not only for the trunk code in the repository, but for eventual >> out-of-trunk code with implementations of custom architectures. I have >> currently a custom backend implemented on top of LLVM 9 and therefore this >> change will surely break my code. I assume that developers affected by this >> will be able to run the converting tools to fix their own code. >> > > The tool that I wrote for lld's style conversion should work for > out-of-trunk code, so as I described in the previous email, third-party > code maintainer should be able to use the tool to convert the style first > in their repositories and then rebase in order to avoid large merge > conflicts. > > The tool needs to be polished to convert other subprojects such as clang, > but I'll keep your request in mind. I'll try my best to provide a smooth > transition path for out-of-trunk code for any change that I'll submit for > the style change. > > John >> >> On 9 Jul 2019, at 09:23, Rui Ueyama via llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> >> wrote: >> >> Thanks, Chris. >> >> Looks like everybody is at least mildly comfortable with my variable name >> renaming change, so I'll to submit that change to lld subdirectory soon. If >> you have any objections, please let me know. Note that this is not the end >> of my effort but actually the beginning of it. As Chris said, I believe we >> should do this to the entire LLVM codebase. I'm planning to do that >> directory-by-directory basis. >> >> On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 2:03 PM Chris Lattner <clattner at nondot.org> wrote: >> >>> This looks really great to me Rui, and I’m also pleased to see the >>> positive comments on the review thread. Thank you for driving this forward! >>> >>> -Chris >>> >>> >>> On Jul 4, 2019, at 9:50 PM, Rui Ueyama <ruiu at google.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I wrote a tool <https://reviews.llvm.org/D64123> to batch-rename >>> variable names so that they are in camelCase, and I applied the tool to lld >>> subdirectory. You can see my change at https://reviews.llvm.org/D64121. >>> If you have any comments, please reply. >>> >>> If people are happy about this change, I can do the same thing for other >>> directories including LLVM itself and Clang. >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 6:34 PM Rui Ueyama <ruiu at google.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 6:27 PM Michael Platings < >>>> Michael.Platings at arm.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Rui, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> As per the provisional plan [1] we’re still at step 1: improving git >>>>> blame. The status of this is that there are some fairly mature patches in >>>>> the Git project’s queue [2], and I’m hopeful that it will be accepted in >>>>> something close to its current form. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> But if you can get started on steps 2 & 3 i.e. making forks available >>>>> with the possible changes applied then that would be great. My hope is that >>>>> once everyone can see what the options really look like then it will be >>>>> easier to reach consensus. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Sure, I'll try to do that. I'll probably start with finding identifiers >>>> and typenames that will conflict after the naming scheme change and rename >>>> them so that they won't conflict. The number of such symbols would >>>> hopefully be small, and submitting such renaming changes wouldn't be >>>> distracting. After that, I think I can create a mechanical change to rename >>>> variables to see how it will look like. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> -Michael >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [1] >>>>> https://llvm.org/docs/Proposals/VariableNames.html#provisional-plan >>>>> >>>>> [2] >>>>> https://public-inbox.org/git/20190515214503.77162-8-brho at google.com/T/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Rui Ueyama <ruiu at google.com> >>>>> *Sent:* 07 June 2019 08:42 >>>>> *To:* Chris Lattner <clattner at nondot.org> >>>>> *Cc:* Michael Platings <Michael.Platings at arm.com>; >>>>> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org; nd <nd at arm.com> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [llvm-dev] RFC: changing variable naming rules in LLVM >>>>> codebase >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This thread is not active for a while, but I'm still interested in >>>>> seeing a change. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Reading through this thread, looks like we can agree that we want to >>>>> change the local variable naming scheme so that they start with a lowercase >>>>> letter. Besides that, there were discussions about lower_case, camelCase, >>>>> m_ prefix, and each argument seems as convincing as others. I'm not sure >>>>> what is the decision making process in a situation like this. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'd personally vote for changing local variables to start with a >>>>> lowercase letter and keep other naming conventions as-is to make it a >>>>> minimum change. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> As I stated before, I'm happy to make a change to lld to see how a >>>>> naming convention change will look like, but in order to do that I need to >>>>> get at least a rough consensus to do that. What is a way to proceed? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 3:00 PM Chris Lattner via llvm-dev < >>>>> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Michael, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I’m still very interested in seeing a change here. If someone is >>>>> interested in seeing a codebase using the proposed camelBack convention for >>>>> variables names, the MLIR codebase is public >>>>> <https://github.com/tensorflow/mlir> and uses it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If you’re curious to see what this looks like in practice, there are >>>>> lots of examples in the codebase, here is an example .cpp file >>>>> <https://github.com/tensorflow/mlir/blob/master/lib/Transforms/LoopUnrollAndJam.cpp> >>>>> , here is another >>>>> <https://github.com/tensorflow/mlir/blob/master/lib/Parser/Parser.cpp>, >>>>> here is an example header >>>>> <https://github.com/tensorflow/mlir/blob/master/include/mlir/IR/Location.h> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> We are still working our way through open sourcing logistics (not all >>>>> the code is out yet), but we would still like to contribute at least parts >>>>> of this to LLVM if the project is interested. [[This is just an FYI, not >>>>> itself a proposal yet - one will be coming when we’re ready.]] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -Chris >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On May 21, 2019, at 3:01 AM, Michael Platings via llvm-dev < >>>>> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi folks, >>>>> >>>>> Git is on its way to learning how to ignore commits, allowing us to do >>>>> variable renaming and other small refactorings without breaking git blame. >>>>> >>>>> It's like git-hyper-blame [1] but significantly more powerful as it >>>>> uses fuzzy matching to match lines, including lines that may have been >>>>> split or joined. >>>>> >>>>> A preview release of Git with this new feature is at: >>>>> https://github.com/mplatings/git/releases/tag/ignore-rev >>>>> >>>>> Some of you have told me that you already have to spend time running >>>>> git blame multiple times to look past uninteresting commits so I'd love for >>>>> you to give this feature a try and see if it helps you. Your feedback will >>>>> be very valuable. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> -Michael >>>>> >>>>> [1] >>>>> https://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/chrome-infra-docs/flat/depot_tools/docs/html/git-hyper-blame.html >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> LLVM Developers mailing list >>>>> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org >>>>> https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> LLVM Developers mailing list >>>>> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org >>>>> https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev >>>>> >>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> LLVM Developers mailing list >> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org >> https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ > LLVM Developers mailing list > llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org > https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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