Snider, Todd via llvm-dev
2019-Feb-12 20:05 UTC
[llvm-dev] [RFC] Potential extension to asm statement functionality
The team I am working with is using asm statements containing label definitions as a way of instrumentation so that when an application is loaded into their debug and test framework, the labels will cause breakpoints to be set at strategic points where they can query the state of the processor that the application is running on. ~ Todd From: Eli Friedman [mailto:efriedma at quicinc.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 1:36 PM To: Snider, Todd; llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: [llvm-dev] [RFC] Potential extension to asm statement functionality Can you go into a bit more detail about why someone would want to do this, as opposed to just writing a file scope inline asm, or a separate file in assembly? I can't think of any practical use for the fact that the label is "inside" the function body. -Eli From: llvm-dev <llvm-dev-bounces at lists.llvm.org> On Behalf Of Snider, Todd via llvm-dev Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 10:18 AM To: llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org Subject: [EXT] [llvm-dev] [RFC] Potential extension to asm statement functionality Suppose a programmer wants to inject their own global label definition into the body of a function with some guarantee that it will not be removed by the compiler. One way to do this is to define a global label with an asm statement knowing that the asm statement will not be invoked until after the compiler's optimization passes have run, but the following case demonstrates that a label defined with an asm statement is still susceptible to being duplicated: #include <stdint.h> uint32_t f(uint32_t x); uint32_t g(uint32_t x); uint32_t f(uint32_t x) { uint32_t returnValue = g(x); if (returnValue > 0U) { returnValue = 0x40000000; } else { returnValue = 0x80000000; } __asm __volatile__ ("\t.global my_hook_fcn\nmy_hook_fcn:\n"); return returnValue; } uint32_t g(uint32_t x) { return x >> 1U; } If the above definition of f() is compiled with optimization at level 1 or higher, the TailDuplication optimization pass will duplicate and move the asm statement and return up into the if block and the else block before the asm statement is invoked. When the now duplicate asm statements are later invoked, the compiler will detect a symbol redefinition error. To address this situation, the asm statement functionality could be extended to comprehend whether it contains a label definition, and if it does, to disallow duplication of the asm statement. There are a couple of different approaches that could be taken to implement this: 1. Parse the content of the assembly string argument to the asm statement in the compiler front-end (during EmitAsmStmt(), for example) to determine if it contains a label definition, and if it does set the isNotDuplicable flag on the INLINEASM record that is created to represent the asm statement in the IR. To date, there is no precedence for processing the content of the assembly string argument until the asm statement is invoked before the integrated assembler starts processing the generated machine code. 2. Add a label constraint to the input and output operand syntax for asm statements. i.e. __asm __volatile__ ("\t.global\t%0\n%0:\n" : "lbl" (my_hook_fcn)); The "lbl" constraint would tell the compiler to mark the asm statement as isNotDuplicable when an INLINEASM record is created to represent it There are alternatives to using an asm statement for this purpose, but I wondered if such an extension would be useful/valuable to the wider community. Thoughts? Opinions? Todd Snider Compiler Group Texas Instruments Incorporated -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20190212/97002bba/attachment.html>
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2019-Feb-12 20:32 UTC
[llvm-dev] [RFC] Potential extension to asm statement functionality
This tactic has been tried before, I'm pretty sure. It's an attempt to do simple instrumentation without having to hack the compiler itself (you do some manual coding or preprocessing, and poof you get useful info in your object file). But our compiler is too clever. Some sort of "No Touchee!" constraint would help this use-case a lot. --paulr From: llvm-dev [mailto:llvm-dev-bounces at lists.llvm.org] On Behalf Of Snider, Todd via llvm-dev Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 3:06 PM To: Eli Friedman; llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org Subject: Re: [llvm-dev] [RFC] Potential extension to asm statement functionality The team I am working with is using asm statements containing label definitions as a way of instrumentation so that when an application is loaded into their debug and test framework, the labels will cause breakpoints to be set at strategic points where they can query the state of the processor that the application is running on. ~ Todd From: Eli Friedman [mailto:efriedma at quicinc.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 1:36 PM To: Snider, Todd; llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: [llvm-dev] [RFC] Potential extension to asm statement functionality Can you go into a bit more detail about why someone would want to do this, as opposed to just writing a file scope inline asm, or a separate file in assembly? I can't think of any practical use for the fact that the label is "inside" the function body. -Eli From: llvm-dev <llvm-dev-bounces at lists.llvm.org> On Behalf Of Snider, Todd via llvm-dev Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 10:18 AM To: llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org Subject: [EXT] [llvm-dev] [RFC] Potential extension to asm statement functionality Suppose a programmer wants to inject their own global label definition into the body of a function with some guarantee that it will not be removed by the compiler. One way to do this is to define a global label with an asm statement knowing that the asm statement will not be invoked until after the compiler's optimization passes have run, but the following case demonstrates that a label defined with an asm statement is still susceptible to being duplicated: #include <stdint.h> uint32_t f(uint32_t x); uint32_t g(uint32_t x); uint32_t f(uint32_t x) { uint32_t returnValue = g(x); if (returnValue > 0U) { returnValue = 0x40000000; } else { returnValue = 0x80000000; } __asm __volatile__ ("\t.global my_hook_fcn\nmy_hook_fcn:\n"); return returnValue; } uint32_t g(uint32_t x) { return x >> 1U; } If the above definition of f() is compiled with optimization at level 1 or higher, the TailDuplication optimization pass will duplicate and move the asm statement and return up into the if block and the else block before the asm statement is invoked. When the now duplicate asm statements are later invoked, the compiler will detect a symbol redefinition error. To address this situation, the asm statement functionality could be extended to comprehend whether it contains a label definition, and if it does, to disallow duplication of the asm statement. There are a couple of different approaches that could be taken to implement this: 1. Parse the content of the assembly string argument to the asm statement in the compiler front-end (during EmitAsmStmt(), for example) to determine if it contains a label definition, and if it does set the isNotDuplicable flag on the INLINEASM record that is created to represent the asm statement in the IR. To date, there is no precedence for processing the content of the assembly string argument until the asm statement is invoked before the integrated assembler starts processing the generated machine code. 2. Add a label constraint to the input and output operand syntax for asm statements. i.e. __asm __volatile__ ("\t.global\t%0\n%0:\n" : "lbl" (my_hook_fcn)); The "lbl" constraint would tell the compiler to mark the asm statement as isNotDuplicable when an INLINEASM record is created to represent it There are alternatives to using an asm statement for this purpose, but I wondered if such an extension would be useful/valuable to the wider community. Thoughts? Opinions? Todd Snider Compiler Group Texas Instruments Incorporated -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20190212/c970cfc4/attachment.html>
Snider, Todd via llvm-dev
2019-Feb-13 17:40 UTC
[llvm-dev] [RFC] Potential extension to asm statement functionality
The proposed "lbl" constraint below: __asm __volatile__ ("\t.global\t%0\n%0:\n" : "lbl" (my_hook_fcn)); is not quite a "No Touchie!" constraint, but it does allow the user to set the isNotDuplicable flag on the INLINEASM that comes out of the asm statement in order to circumvent optimizations like Tail Duplication. But setting the isNotDuplicable flag is not really enough. If the function that contains the "lbl" constrained asm statement is inlined into a function in the same compilation unit, the compiler will error out with a symbol redefinition error. We may need something on the level of a "No Touchie!" constraint. Perhaps a new builtin function that resolves to a global label definition is a better alternative for this use case? ~ Todd From: paul.robinson at sony.com [mailto:paul.robinson at sony.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 2:32 PM To: Snider, Todd; efriedma at quicinc.com Cc: llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: [llvm-dev] [RFC] Potential extension to asm statement functionality This tactic has been tried before, I'm pretty sure. It's an attempt to do simple instrumentation without having to hack the compiler itself (you do some manual coding or preprocessing, and poof you get useful info in your object file). But our compiler is too clever. Some sort of "No Touchee!" constraint would help this use-case a lot. --paulr From: llvm-dev [mailto:llvm-dev-bounces at lists.llvm.org] On Behalf Of Snider, Todd via llvm-dev Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 3:06 PM To: Eli Friedman; llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org Subject: Re: [llvm-dev] [RFC] Potential extension to asm statement functionality The team I am working with is using asm statements containing label definitions as a way of instrumentation so that when an application is loaded into their debug and test framework, the labels will cause breakpoints to be set at strategic points where they can query the state of the processor that the application is running on. ~ Todd From: Eli Friedman [mailto:efriedma at quicinc.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 1:36 PM To: Snider, Todd; llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: [llvm-dev] [RFC] Potential extension to asm statement functionality Can you go into a bit more detail about why someone would want to do this, as opposed to just writing a file scope inline asm, or a separate file in assembly? I can't think of any practical use for the fact that the label is "inside" the function body. -Eli From: llvm-dev <llvm-dev-bounces at lists.llvm.org> On Behalf Of Snider, Todd via llvm-dev Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 10:18 AM To: llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org Subject: [EXT] [llvm-dev] [RFC] Potential extension to asm statement functionality Suppose a programmer wants to inject their own global label definition into the body of a function with some guarantee that it will not be removed by the compiler. One way to do this is to define a global label with an asm statement knowing that the asm statement will not be invoked until after the compiler's optimization passes have run, but the following case demonstrates that a label defined with an asm statement is still susceptible to being duplicated: #include <stdint.h> uint32_t f(uint32_t x); uint32_t g(uint32_t x); uint32_t f(uint32_t x) { uint32_t returnValue = g(x); if (returnValue > 0U) { returnValue = 0x40000000; } else { returnValue = 0x80000000; } __asm __volatile__ ("\t.global my_hook_fcn\nmy_hook_fcn:\n"); return returnValue; } uint32_t g(uint32_t x) { return x >> 1U; } If the above definition of f() is compiled with optimization at level 1 or higher, the TailDuplication optimization pass will duplicate and move the asm statement and return up into the if block and the else block before the asm statement is invoked. When the now duplicate asm statements are later invoked, the compiler will detect a symbol redefinition error. To address this situation, the asm statement functionality could be extended to comprehend whether it contains a label definition, and if it does, to disallow duplication of the asm statement. There are a couple of different approaches that could be taken to implement this: 1. Parse the content of the assembly string argument to the asm statement in the compiler front-end (during EmitAsmStmt(), for example) to determine if it contains a label definition, and if it does set the isNotDuplicable flag on the INLINEASM record that is created to represent the asm statement in the IR. To date, there is no precedence for processing the content of the assembly string argument until the asm statement is invoked before the integrated assembler starts processing the generated machine code. 2. Add a label constraint to the input and output operand syntax for asm statements. i.e. __asm __volatile__ ("\t.global\t%0\n%0:\n" : "lbl" (my_hook_fcn)); The "lbl" constraint would tell the compiler to mark the asm statement as isNotDuplicable when an INLINEASM record is created to represent it There are alternatives to using an asm statement for this purpose, but I wondered if such an extension would be useful/valuable to the wider community. Thoughts? Opinions? Todd Snider Compiler Group Texas Instruments Incorporated -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20190213/2f7c2dd2/attachment-0001.html>
Snider, Todd via llvm-dev
2019-Feb-14 17:53 UTC
[llvm-dev] [RFC] Potential extension to asm statement functionality
Hi Paul, Regarding the "No Touchie!" constraint idea for asm statements: would this be a new qualifier (like volatile) that could be applied to the asm statement? Since the constraint is not necessarily associated with an input or output operand, it seems that introducing the constraint via the qualifier field might work. All, The volatile qualifier on an asm statement already indicates that the statement should be assumed to have side effects. Could we extend the functionality of volatile to also mean the asm statement is not duplicable? ~ Todd From: Snider, Todd Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:40 AM To: 'paul.robinson at sony.com'; efriedma at quicinc.com Cc: llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org Subject: RE: [llvm-dev] [RFC] Potential extension to asm statement functionality The proposed "lbl" constraint below: __asm __volatile__ ("\t.global\t%0\n%0:\n" : "lbl" (my_hook_fcn)); is not quite a "No Touchie!" constraint, but it does allow the user to set the isNotDuplicable flag on the INLINEASM that comes out of the asm statement in order to circumvent optimizations like Tail Duplication. But setting the isNotDuplicable flag is not really enough. If the function that contains the "lbl" constrained asm statement is inlined into a function in the same compilation unit, the compiler will error out with a symbol redefinition error. We may need something on the level of a "No Touchie!" constraint. Perhaps a new builtin function that resolves to a global label definition is a better alternative for this use case? ~ Todd From: paul.robinson at sony.com [mailto:paul.robinson at sony.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 2:32 PM To: Snider, Todd; efriedma at quicinc.com Cc: llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: [llvm-dev] [RFC] Potential extension to asm statement functionality This tactic has been tried before, I'm pretty sure. It's an attempt to do simple instrumentation without having to hack the compiler itself (you do some manual coding or preprocessing, and poof you get useful info in your object file). But our compiler is too clever. Some sort of "No Touchee!" constraint would help this use-case a lot. --paulr From: llvm-dev [mailto:llvm-dev-bounces at lists.llvm.org] On Behalf Of Snider, Todd via llvm-dev Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 3:06 PM To: Eli Friedman; llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org Subject: Re: [llvm-dev] [RFC] Potential extension to asm statement functionality The team I am working with is using asm statements containing label definitions as a way of instrumentation so that when an application is loaded into their debug and test framework, the labels will cause breakpoints to be set at strategic points where they can query the state of the processor that the application is running on. ~ Todd From: Eli Friedman [mailto:efriedma at quicinc.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 1:36 PM To: Snider, Todd; llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: [llvm-dev] [RFC] Potential extension to asm statement functionality Can you go into a bit more detail about why someone would want to do this, as opposed to just writing a file scope inline asm, or a separate file in assembly? I can't think of any practical use for the fact that the label is "inside" the function body. -Eli From: llvm-dev <llvm-dev-bounces at lists.llvm.org> On Behalf Of Snider, Todd via llvm-dev Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 10:18 AM To: llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org Subject: [EXT] [llvm-dev] [RFC] Potential extension to asm statement functionality Suppose a programmer wants to inject their own global label definition into the body of a function with some guarantee that it will not be removed by the compiler. One way to do this is to define a global label with an asm statement knowing that the asm statement will not be invoked until after the compiler's optimization passes have run, but the following case demonstrates that a label defined with an asm statement is still susceptible to being duplicated: #include <stdint.h> uint32_t f(uint32_t x); uint32_t g(uint32_t x); uint32_t f(uint32_t x) { uint32_t returnValue = g(x); if (returnValue > 0U) { returnValue = 0x40000000; } else { returnValue = 0x80000000; } __asm __volatile__ ("\t.global my_hook_fcn\nmy_hook_fcn:\n"); return returnValue; } uint32_t g(uint32_t x) { return x >> 1U; } If the above definition of f() is compiled with optimization at level 1 or higher, the TailDuplication optimization pass will duplicate and move the asm statement and return up into the if block and the else block before the asm statement is invoked. When the now duplicate asm statements are later invoked, the compiler will detect a symbol redefinition error. To address this situation, the asm statement functionality could be extended to comprehend whether it contains a label definition, and if it does, to disallow duplication of the asm statement. There are a couple of different approaches that could be taken to implement this: 1. Parse the content of the assembly string argument to the asm statement in the compiler front-end (during EmitAsmStmt(), for example) to determine if it contains a label definition, and if it does set the isNotDuplicable flag on the INLINEASM record that is created to represent the asm statement in the IR. To date, there is no precedence for processing the content of the assembly string argument until the asm statement is invoked before the integrated assembler starts processing the generated machine code. 2. Add a label constraint to the input and output operand syntax for asm statements. i.e. __asm __volatile__ ("\t.global\t%0\n%0:\n" : "lbl" (my_hook_fcn)); The "lbl" constraint would tell the compiler to mark the asm statement as isNotDuplicable when an INLINEASM record is created to represent it There are alternatives to using an asm statement for this purpose, but I wondered if such an extension would be useful/valuable to the wider community. Thoughts? Opinions? Todd Snider Compiler Group Texas Instruments Incorporated -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20190214/fb20907a/attachment.html>
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