Yaron Keren via llvm-dev
2015-Sep-08 08:29 UTC
[llvm-dev] Euro LLVM videos finally online - proposal to use torrents for sharing
It's no magic, to get good download speed with torrents you need many seeders or few seeders with high bandwidth. I'm not sure LLVM videos will attract enough interest for many seeders to be online... The easy solution would be to have a LLVM channel with all videos on Youtube which has high qualty CDN. 2015-09-08 11:20 GMT+03:00 Adam Husár <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org>:> Hello everyone, > > the videos from the developers' meetings are great and in the past, they > were a great source of information for me and my colleagues, > however, the download speed is terrible and this makes them in fact > unusable. > > For example right now, I wanted to download a lower quality video from > http://llvm.org/devmtg/2015-04/, > and the download speed is between 5 and 30 kB/s meaning that a 450MB video > takes approx 10 hours to download. > (I am connecting from the Czech Republic, I already tried to download it > through different providers and the speed is low all the time) > > An easy solution could be to provide the videos through torrents, if > there are no legal obstacles to this. > What do you think of this? > > Best regards > Adam > > > > On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 11:50:26 +0200, Tobias Grosser via llvm-dev < > llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote: > > Dear all, >> >> this week the videos from Euro LLVM 2015 in London have finally >> been made available at http://llvm.org/devmtg/2015-04/. >> >> Thanks again to all the presenters, the video recording team as well as >> the organizers around Andy Thomason for all their work and afford! >> >> On page 8 of the HiPEAC Newsletter, there was also a report about >> EuroLLVM 2015 Published. >> >> >> https://www.hipeac.net/assets/public/publications/newsletter/hipeacinfo43.pdf >> >> >> Best, >> Tobias >> >> -- >> If you are now thinking again about the nice time you had at EuroLLVM, >> don't forget to register for the upcoming US developer meeting. >> _______________________________________________ >> LLVM Developers mailing list >> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org http://llvm.cs.uiuc.edu >> http://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev >> > _______________________________________________ > LLVM Developers mailing list > llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org > http://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20150908/2fb11603/attachment.html>
Renato Golin via llvm-dev
2015-Sep-08 08:34 UTC
[llvm-dev] Euro LLVM videos finally online - proposal to use torrents for sharing
On 8 September 2015 at 09:29, Yaron Keren via llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:> The easy solution would be to have a LLVM channel with all videos > on Youtube which has high qualty CDN.That's a good point, I think we should do that. Tobi, Tanya, do you guys think we could do this directly from now on? Maybe even creating one channel for LLVM conferences and sharing the account between US and Euro LLVM. Not having to host large videos is a great relief for our servers / bandwidth... cheers, --renato
Yaron Keren via llvm-dev
2015-Sep-08 08:41 UTC
[llvm-dev] Euro LLVM videos finally online - proposal to use torrents for sharing
To make it easier to manage one channel (=one youtube account) is enough with different conferences arranged in playlists. 2015-09-08 11:34 GMT+03:00 Renato Golin <renato.golin at linaro.org>:> On 8 September 2015 at 09:29, Yaron Keren via llvm-dev > <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote: > > The easy solution would be to have a LLVM channel with all videos > > on Youtube which has high qualty CDN. > > That's a good point, I think we should do that. > > Tobi, Tanya, do you guys think we could do this directly from now on? > Maybe even creating one channel for LLVM conferences and sharing the > account between US and Euro LLVM. > > Not having to host large videos is a great relief for our servers / > bandwidth... > > cheers, > --renato >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20150908/09ab2896/attachment.html>
Bruce Hoult via llvm-dev
2015-Sep-08 08:50 UTC
[llvm-dev] Euro LLVM videos finally online - proposal to use torrents for sharing
You could also put them on Amazon S3. S3 supports both direct http downloads and bittorrent (can be faster even if you're the only leecher). It costs $0.03 per month per GB for storage, plus $0.09 per GB downloaded. But of course YouTube is free -- and can even make you a few cents from ads. On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Yaron Keren via llvm-dev < llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:> It's no magic, to get good download speed with torrents you need many > seeders or few seeders with high bandwidth. > I'm not sure LLVM videos will attract enough interest for many seeders to > be online... The easy solution would be to have a LLVM channel with all > videos on Youtube which has high qualty CDN. > > > > 2015-09-08 11:20 GMT+03:00 Adam Husár <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org>: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> the videos from the developers' meetings are great and in the past, >> they were a great source of information for me and my colleagues, >> however, the download speed is terrible and this makes them in fact >> unusable. >> >> For example right now, I wanted to download a lower quality video from >> http://llvm.org/devmtg/2015-04/, >> and the download speed is between 5 and 30 kB/s meaning that a 450MB >> video takes approx 10 hours to download. >> (I am connecting from the Czech Republic, I already tried to download it >> through different providers and the speed is low all the time) >> >> An easy solution could be to provide the videos through torrents, if >> there are no legal obstacles to this. >> What do you think of this? >> >> Best regards >> Adam >> >> >> >> On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 11:50:26 +0200, Tobias Grosser via llvm-dev < >> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote: >> >> Dear all, >>> >>> this week the videos from Euro LLVM 2015 in London have finally >>> been made available at http://llvm.org/devmtg/2015-04/. >>> >>> Thanks again to all the presenters, the video recording team as well as >>> the organizers around Andy Thomason for all their work and afford! >>> >>> On page 8 of the HiPEAC Newsletter, there was also a report about >>> EuroLLVM 2015 Published. >>> >>> >>> https://www.hipeac.net/assets/public/publications/newsletter/hipeacinfo43.pdf >>> >>> >>> Best, >>> Tobias >>> >>> -- >>> If you are now thinking again about the nice time you had at EuroLLVM, >>> don't forget to register for the upcoming US developer meeting. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> LLVM Developers mailing list >>> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org http://llvm.cs.uiuc.edu >>> http://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> LLVM Developers mailing list >> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org >> http://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev >> > > > _______________________________________________ > LLVM Developers mailing list > llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org > http://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev > >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20150908/fc35ab24/attachment.html>
Renato Golin via llvm-dev
2015-Sep-08 08:58 UTC
[llvm-dev] Euro LLVM videos finally online - proposal to use torrents for sharing
On 8 September 2015 at 09:50, Bruce Hoult via llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:> You could also put them on Amazon S3. S3 supports both direct http downloads > and bittorrent (can be faster even if you're the only leecher).We use S3 for other purposes and I'd not recommend it.> But of course YouTube is free -- and can even make you a few cents from ads.I'd also avoid having ads. :) The price we pay is to have youtube shove some other ads, like "recommended" videos, which is all part of the interface and non disruptive. I think it's a fair deal. cheers, --renato
Mehdi Amini via llvm-dev
2015-Sep-08 15:35 UTC
[llvm-dev] Euro LLVM videos finally online - proposal to use torrents for sharing
> On Sep 8, 2015, at 1:29 AM, Yaron Keren via llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote: > > It's no magic, to get good download speed with torrents you need many seeders or few seeders with high bandwidth. > I'm not sure LLVM videos will attract enough interest for many seeders to be online... The easy solution would be to have a LLVM channel with all videos on Youtube which has high qualty CDN.I’m all for relying on an external CDN, but I also really like to *download* the video, which is a feature unfortunately absent of Youtube. If we could find a “sponsor” to provide the same kind of hosting as channel9.msdn.com <http://channel9.msdn.com/>, see the download options here for instance: https://channel9.msdn.com/Events/GoingNative/2013/Inheritance-Is-The-Base-Class-of-Evil <https://channel9.msdn.com/Events/GoingNative/2013/Inheritance-Is-The-Base-Class-of-Evil> — Mehdi> > > > 2015-09-08 11:20 GMT+03:00 Adam Husár <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org <mailto:llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org>>: > Hello everyone, > > the videos from the developers' meetings are great and in the past, they were a great source of information for me and my colleagues, > however, the download speed is terrible and this makes them in fact unusable. > > For example right now, I wanted to download a lower quality video from http://llvm.org/devmtg/2015-04/ <http://llvm.org/devmtg/2015-04/>, > and the download speed is between 5 and 30 kB/s meaning that a 450MB video takes approx 10 hours to download. > (I am connecting from the Czech Republic, I already tried to download it through different providers and the speed is low all the time) > > An easy solution could be to provide the videos through torrents, if there are no legal obstacles to this. > What do you think of this? > > Best regards > Adam > > > > On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 11:50:26 +0200, Tobias Grosser via llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org <mailto:llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org>> wrote: > > Dear all, > > this week the videos from Euro LLVM 2015 in London have finally > been made available at http://llvm.org/devmtg/2015-04/ <http://llvm.org/devmtg/2015-04/>. > > Thanks again to all the presenters, the video recording team as well as > the organizers around Andy Thomason for all their work and afford! > > On page 8 of the HiPEAC Newsletter, there was also a report about > EuroLLVM 2015 Published. > > https://www.hipeac.net/assets/public/publications/newsletter/hipeacinfo43.pdf <https://www.hipeac.net/assets/public/publications/newsletter/hipeacinfo43.pdf> > > > Best, > Tobias > > -- > If you are now thinking again about the nice time you had at EuroLLVM, > don't forget to register for the upcoming US developer meeting. > _______________________________________________ > LLVM Developers mailing list > llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org <mailto:llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> http://llvm.cs.uiuc.edu <http://llvm.cs.uiuc.edu/> > http://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev <http://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev> > _______________________________________________ > LLVM Developers mailing list > llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org <mailto:llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> > http://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev <http://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev> > > _______________________________________________ > LLVM Developers mailing list > llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org > http://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20150908/ce871c39/attachment.html>
Renato Golin via llvm-dev
2015-Sep-08 15:42 UTC
[llvm-dev] Euro LLVM videos finally online - proposal to use torrents for sharing
On 8 September 2015 at 16:35, Mehdi Amini via llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:> I’m all for relying on an external CDN, but I also really like to *download* > the video, which is a feature unfortunately absent of Youtube.https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/ cheers, --renato
Tanya Lattner via llvm-dev
2015-Sep-08 18:20 UTC
[llvm-dev] Euro LLVM videos finally online - proposal to use torrents for sharing
> On Sep 8, 2015, at 1:34 AM, Renato Golin <renato.golin at linaro.org> wrote: > > On 8 September 2015 at 09:29, Yaron Keren via llvm-dev > <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote: >> The easy solution would be to have a LLVM channel with all videos >> on Youtube which has high qualty CDN. > > That's a good point, I think we should do that. > > Tobi, Tanya, do you guys think we could do this directly from now on? > Maybe even creating one channel for LLVM conferences and sharing the > account between US and Euro LLVM. > > Not having to host large videos is a great relief for our servers / bandwidth…In general we have preferred that videos are hosted on the LLVM server as the official hosting site but I can see the argument about slow download speeds. Youtube has been discussed in the past but we have usually defaulted to mainly hosted on llvm.org <http://llvm.org/> and then a copy could potentially be on YouTube. I would want this to be an official posting though. There is another option that was presented to the LLVM Foundation as a free hosting service, which I will need to talk to them more about (I would rather not say on list just yet). I’ll get back with a answer/concrete proposal. Thanks, Tanya -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20150908/14501546/attachment.html>
Adam Husar via llvm-dev
2015-Sep-18 13:34 UTC
[llvm-dev] Euro LLVM videos finally online - proposal to use torrents for sharing
Hello, this is an interesting solution too. Sometimes I just want to watch some video, but even waiting 1 hour for download makes me to switch to do something else. So, having the videos on youtube (and links from the the developers meetings page) would be very nice:) Best regards Adam On Tue, 08 Sep 2015 10:29:20 +0200, Yaron Keren via llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:> It's no magic, to get good download speed with torrents you need many seeders or few seeders with high bandwidth. > I'm not sure LLVM videos will attract enough interest for many seeders to be online... The easy solution would be to have a LLVM channel with all videos on Youtube which has high qualty CDN. > > > 2015-09-08 11:20 GMT+03:00 Adam Husár <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org>: >> Hello everyone, >> >> the videos from the developers' meetings are great and in the past, they were a great source of information for me and my colleagues, >> however, the download speed is terrible and this makes them in fact unusable. >> >> For example right now, I wanted to download a lower quality video from http://llvm.org/devmtg/2015-04/, >> and the download speed is between 5 and 30 kB/s meaning that a 450MB video takes approx 10 hours to download. >> (I am connecting from the Czech Republic, I already tried to download it through different providers and the speed is low all the time) >> >> An easy solution could be to provide the videos through torrents, if there are no legal obstacles to this. >> What do you think of this? >> >> Best regards >> Adam >> >> >> >> On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 11:50:26 +0200, Tobias Grosser via llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote: >> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> this week the videos from Euro LLVM 2015 in London have finally >>> been made available at http://llvm.org/devmtg/2015-04/. >>> >>> Thanks again to all the presenters, the video recording team as well as >>> the organizers around Andy Thomason for all their work and afford! >>> >>> On page 8 of the HiPEAC Newsletter, there was also a report about >>> EuroLLVM 2015 Published. >>> >>> https://www.hipeac.net/assets/public/publications/newsletter/hipeacinfo43.pdf >>> >>> >>> Best, >>> Tobias >>> >>> -- >>> If you are now thinking again about the nice time you had at EuroLLVM, >>> don't forget to register for the upcoming US developer meeting. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> LLVM Developers mailing list >>> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org http://llvm.cs.uiuc.edu >>> http://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev >> _______________________________________________ >> LLVM Developers mailing list >> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org >> http://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20150918/1c78d71d/attachment.html>