Horatiu Vultur
2020-Jan-10 17:25 UTC
[Bridge] [RFC net-next Patch 0/3] net: bridge: mrp: Add support for Media Redundancy Protocol(MRP)
Hi Valdimir and Andrew The 01/10/2020 18:21, Vladimir Oltean wrote:> I think it would help your case if you explained a bit more about the > hw offload primitives you have implemented internally. I believe you > are talking about the frame generation engine in the Ocelot switch > which has 1024 frame slots that are periodically sent based on one of > 8 timers. For receive, I believe that the functionality is to offload > the consumption of these periodic frames, and just raise an interrupt > if frames were expected but not received.Yes something like this. But it is worth mention that it is not just about injecting frames, sequence number needs to be incremented (by HW) etc.> For your use case of MRP, it makes perfect sense to have this. I am > just not sure (and not knowledgeable enough in Linux) what this engine > is offloading from the operating system's perspective.We will try to make that more clear.> Your justification for implementing MRP in the kernel seems to be that > it's better to make MRP part of the kernel uapi than a configuration > interface for your periodic engine, which in principle I agree with. > I'm just not sure if the offload that you propose will have a trivial > path into the kernel either, so it would make sense for reviewers to > see everything put together first.You are right. The decision of start by publishing a pure SW implementation with no HW offload was not the best. I can do a new RFC that does including the HW offload hooks, and describe what configurations we do when these hooks are called. The actual HW which implements these hooks is still not released (and the SwitchDev driver for this device is still not submitted).> Horatiu, could you also give some references to the frames that need > to be sent. I've no idea what information they need to contain, if the > contents is dynamic, or static, etc.It is dynamic - but trivial... Here is a dump from WireShark with annotation on what our HW can update: Ethernet II, Src: 7a:8b:b1:35:96:e1 (7a:8b:b1:35:96:e1), Dst: Iec_00:00:01 (01:15:4e:00:00:01) Destination: Iec_00:00:01 (01:15:4e:00:00:01) Source: 7a:8b:b1:35:96:e1 (7a:8b:b1:35:96:e1) Type: MRP (0x88e3) PROFINET MRP MRP_Test, MRP_Common, MRP_End MRP_Version: 1 MRP_TLVHeader.Type: MRP_Test (0x02) MRP_TLVHeader.Type: MRP_Test (0x02) MRP_TLVHeader.Length: 18 MRP_Prio: 0x1f40 High priorities MRP_SA: 7a:8b:b1:35:96:e1 (7a:8b:b1:35:96:e1) MRP_PortRole: Primary ring port (0x0000) MRP_RingState: Ring closed (0x0001) MRP_Transition: 0x0001 MRP_TimeStamp [ms]: 0x000cf574 <---------- Updated automatic MRP_TLVHeader.Type: MRP_Common (0x01) MRP_TLVHeader.Type: MRP_Common (0x01) MRP_TLVHeader.Length: 18 MRP_SequenceID: 0x00e9 <---------- Updated automatic MRP_DomainUUID: ffffffff-ffff-ffff-ffff-ffffffffffff MRP_TLVHeader.Type: MRP_End (0x00) MRP_TLVHeader.Type: MRP_End (0x00) MRP_TLVHeader.Length: 0 But all the fields can change, but to change the other fields we need to interact with the HW. Other SoC may have other capabilities in their offload. As an example, if the ring becomes open then the fields MRP_RingState and MRP_Transition need to change and in our case this requires SW interference. Would you like a PCAP file as an example? Or do you want a better description of the frame format. /Horatiu
Andrew Lunn
2020-Jan-10 17:56 UTC
[Bridge] [RFC net-next Patch 0/3] net: bridge: mrp: Add support for Media Redundancy Protocol(MRP)
> > Horatiu, could you also give some references to the frames that need > > to be sent. I've no idea what information they need to contain, if the > > contents is dynamic, or static, etc. > It is dynamic - but trivial...If it is trivial, i don't see why you are so worried about abstracting it?> Here is a dump from WireShark with > annotation on what our HW can update: > > Ethernet II, Src: 7a:8b:b1:35:96:e1 (7a:8b:b1:35:96:e1), Dst: Iec_00:00:01 (01:15:4e:00:00:01) > Destination: Iec_00:00:01 (01:15:4e:00:00:01) > Source: 7a:8b:b1:35:96:e1 (7a:8b:b1:35:96:e1) > Type: MRP (0x88e3) > PROFINET MRP MRP_Test, MRP_Common, MRP_End > MRP_Version: 1 > MRP_TLVHeader.Type: MRP_Test (0x02) > MRP_TLVHeader.Type: MRP_Test (0x02) > MRP_TLVHeader.Length: 18 > MRP_Prio: 0x1f40 High priorities > MRP_SA: 7a:8b:b1:35:96:e1 (7a:8b:b1:35:96:e1) > MRP_PortRole: Primary ring port (0x0000) > MRP_RingState: Ring closed (0x0001) > MRP_Transition: 0x0001 > MRP_TimeStamp [ms]: 0x000cf574 <---------- Updated automatic > MRP_TLVHeader.Type: MRP_Common (0x01) > MRP_TLVHeader.Type: MRP_Common (0x01) > MRP_TLVHeader.Length: 18 > MRP_SequenceID: 0x00e9 <---------- Updated automatic > MRP_DomainUUID: ffffffff-ffff-ffff-ffff-ffffffffffff > MRP_TLVHeader.Type: MRP_End (0x00) > MRP_TLVHeader.Type: MRP_End (0x00) > MRP_TLVHeader.Length: 0 > > But all the fields can change, but to change the other fields we need to > interact with the HW. Other SoC may have other capabilities in their > offload. As an example, if the ring becomes open then the fields > MRP_RingState and MRP_Transition need to change and in our case this > requires SW interference.Isn't SW always required? You need to tell your state machine that the state has changed.> Would you like a PCAP file as an example? Or do you want a better > description of the frame format.I was hoping for a link to an RFC, or some standards document. Andrew