Here's a problem that I have uncovered on two entriely separate machines using the latest icecast2 and ices2 software. Even when the onboard soundcard is disabled, the PCI soundcard (which has been both a Creative Live! and an Ensoniq soundcard) is unable to accept input or stdin audio. If I enable the onboard soundcard everything works well and I can stream audio using icecast and ices. But using the PCI soundcard with the onboard card disabled, no input is detected. I have tested this so far on only RH9 with the latest updates. Has anyone else come across this, and if so, how did they fix this? Not a big issue, but I would like to use the nicer soundcards rather than the built-in cards. Thanks. KJ <p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Kerry, I have two soundcards in my system, using RH 7.3, and I had a hell of a time getting the second one to work. I think it was because I added the second one after I installed the machine. I'm not sure anything I am about to say will help your case, but what the hell :). My first problem was that I had /dev/dsp and /dev/dsp1, but both pointed to the same sound card. Apparantly, this is because I am using a SB Live, and it uses two dsps. So although I thought I saw two cards, I really only had one usable. Once I made sure the module was loaded and running properly, I had to create two new /dev entries for the card to use - dsp2 and dsp3. I did that with the following two lines: mknod /dev/dsp2 c 14 35 mknod /dev/dsp3 c 14 51 After I did that, pointing my streamer (in my case DarkIce) at /dev/dsp2 got me access to the second card. I also had to use aumix on /dev/mixer1 to set the levels on that second card. It defaulted the input to mute on me, so I wasn't getting anything at first. Unmuting it and boosting the level got me in business. Maybe your RH install took the onboard sound and mapped it to the dsp and dsp1 entries. Maybe it preserves that mapping even though the card is "disabled" and is treating the new soundboard like a "second" card? - Adam Quoting Kerry Cox <kerry.cox@ksl.com>:> Here's a problem that I have uncovered on two entriely separate machines > using the latest icecast2 and ices2 software. Even when the onboard > soundcard is disabled, the PCI soundcard (which has been both a Creative > Live! and an Ensoniq soundcard) is unable to accept input or stdin > audio. > If I enable the onboard soundcard everything works well and I can stream > audio using icecast and ices. But using the PCI soundcard with the > onboard card disabled, no input is detected. > I have tested this so far on only RH9 with the latest updates. > Has anyone else come across this, and if so, how did they fix this? Not > a big issue, but I would like to use the nicer soundcards rather than > the built-in cards. > Thanks. > KJ--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
this is almost certainly a driver or device mapping issue. the answer depends on whether you use alsa or oss. if you're using oss: use alsa :) if you're using alsa: are both cards correctly installed? what does aplay -l say? what does lsmod | grep snd say? have you specified the correct device to use? depending on your installation, the onboard sound chip might be set to be the default device. btw, for all questions related to linux audio, may i invite you to the linux-audio-user list at http://linuxaudiodev.org/subscribelau.php3 ? many people there use multiple soundcards (i've been doing so without problems for years), and will be able to help you with distro-specific stuff (i don't run rh, so i can't help you there.) since this is a cross-platform list, os-specific driver issues won't be of much use to many readers anyway... regards, jörn btw, many thanks for your excellent howto. it helped me a great deal with a webcast of the linux audio developers' conference last year (http://linuxaudiodev.org/eventszkm2003.php3). kudos! Kerry Cox wrote:> Here's a problem that I have uncovered on two entriely separate machines > using the latest icecast2 and ices2 software. Even when the onboard > soundcard is disabled, the PCI soundcard (which has been both a Creative > Live! and an Ensoniq soundcard) is unable to accept input or stdin > audio. > If I enable the onboard soundcard everything works well and I can stream > audio using icecast and ices. But using the PCI soundcard with the > onboard card disabled, no input is detected. > I have tested this so far on only RH9 with the latest updates. > Has anyone else come across this, and if so, how did they fix this? Not > a big issue, but I would like to use the nicer soundcards rather than > the built-in cards. > Thanks. > KJ > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. >-- The handles of a craftsman's tools bespeak an absolute simplicity, the plainest forms affording the greatest range of possibilities for the user's hand. That which is overdesigned, too highly specific, anticipates outcome; the anticipation of outcome guarantees, if not failure, the absence of grace. - William Gibson, "All Tomorrow's Parties" Jörn Nettingsmeier Kurfürstenstr 49, 45138 Essen, Germany http://spunk.dnsalias.org (my server) http://www.linuxaudiodev.org (Linux Audio Developers) <p><p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Jorn, Yep, I checked all tose variables, and have tried installing things in different manners. But this is something I am seeing on multiple machines. I can get one or the other to work just fine with normal Linux audio. I will also look into subscribing to the linux audio list. Fuinny that icecast is having problems only seeing the input on the PCI card. Haven't had a chance to really test out alsa. Perhaps it is time :-) I'll keep looking into this. I will be updating my FAQ pretty soon. I need to mention the latest icecast-2.0.0 release and also update the section on darkice. Thanks. KJ <p>On Tue, 2004-02-10 at 02:53, Joern Nettingsmeier wrote:> this is almost certainly a driver or device mapping issue. the > answer depends on whether you use alsa or oss. > > if you're using oss: use alsa :) > if you're using alsa: are both cards correctly installed? what does > aplay -l say? what does lsmod | grep snd say? > have you specified the correct device to use? depending on your > installation, the onboard sound chip might be set to be the default > device. > > btw, for all questions related to linux audio, may i invite you to > the linux-audio-user list at > http://linuxaudiodev.org/subscribelau.php3 ? > many people there use multiple soundcards (i've been doing so > without problems for years), and will be able to help you with > distro-specific stuff (i don't run rh, so i can't help you there.) > since this is a cross-platform list, os-specific driver issues won't > be of much use to many readers anyway... > > regards, > > jörn > > btw, many thanks for your excellent howto. it helped me a great deal > with a webcast of the linux audio developers' conference last year > (http://linuxaudiodev.org/eventszkm2003.php3). kudos! > > Kerry Cox wrote: > > Here's a problem that I have uncovered on two entriely separate machines > > using the latest icecast2 and ices2 software. Even when the onboard > > soundcard is disabled, the PCI soundcard (which has been both a Creative > > Live! and an Ensoniq soundcard) is unable to accept input or stdin > > audio. > > If I enable the onboard soundcard everything works well and I can stream > > audio using icecast and ices. But using the PCI soundcard with the > > onboard card disabled, no input is detected. > > I have tested this so far on only RH9 with the latest updates. > > Has anyone else come across this, and if so, how did they fix this? Not > > a big issue, but I would like to use the nicer soundcards rather than > > the built-in cards. > > Thanks. > > KJ > > > > > > --- >8 ---- > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > >-- /------------------------------------\__/-------------------------\ | Kerry J. Cox, Ph.D. __ kerry.cox@ksl.com | | KSL System Administrator | | p: 801.575.7771 | | http://quasi.ksl.com/pubkey.html |__| f: 801.575.5745 | \------------------------------------/ \-------------------------/ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.